Hello guys finally registered to the site but have been reading your posts for some time now. My brother and I finally came to the agreement to give up on our SBE's and go with the Browning 10 lite. My dad has had the SP-10 since 92 when I bought it for him when I was in the army. Everyone who has used that gun has hammered geese and there has to be more happening than just velocity when hitting big geese. He has cases of old slow steel and he crushes stuff with authority compared to our fast steel 3.5". I also bought 800 Remington hulls and a PW reloaded is on the way. I'm very experienced rifle reloader and gave up shotgun reloading when steel came out. Want to try see if we can do some custom loads and try to beat the factory offerings. I'll end it here I'm sure I'll have a lot more questions, thanks!