12 billion/month US taxpayer dollars and still no WMD's or Al Qaeda link

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  1. seastreet

    seastreet Banned

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    I guess you can source such a flammable quote?

    If you think that yellow cake (intermediate U3O8) isn't a concern, then maybe you need to go to any US nuclear fuel manufacturing plant that makes yellow cake through enrichment through wet process, or ore that is to be be enriched, and share that opinion with them. I sure you will be surprised at the reaction you will get. The NRC and the FBI will disagree with you. I know this first hand, because I worked in the industry for many years.
     
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    My pleasure Neidermeyer,
    There are other sources I can provide concerning the failure to secure known sites.
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    PETER W. GALBRAITH
    Eyewitness to a failure in Iraq
    By Peter W. Galbraith | October 27, 2004
    http://www.boston.com/news/globe/ed...s/2004/10/27/eyewitness_to_a_failure_in_iraq/

    IN 2003 I went to tell Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz what I had seen in Baghdad in the days following Saddam Hussein's overthrow. For nearly an hour, I described the catastrophic aftermath of the invasion -- the unchecked looting of every public institution in Baghdad, the devastation of Iraq's cultural heritage, the anger of ordinary Iraqis who couldn't understand why the world's only superpower was letting this happen.


    I also described two particularly disturbing incidents -- one I had witnessed and the other I had heard about. On April 16, 2003, a mob attacked and looted the Iraqi equivalent of the Centers for Disease Control, taking live HIV and black fever virus among other potentially lethal materials. US troops were stationed across the street but did not intervene because they didn't know the building was important.

    When he found out, the young American lieutenant was devastated. He shook his head and said, "I hope I am not responsible for Armageddon." About the same time, looters entered the warehouses at Iraq's sprawling nuclear facilities at Tuwaitha on Baghdad's outskirts. They took barrels of yellowcake (raw uranium), apparently dumping the uranium and using the barrels to hold water. US troops were at Tuwaitha but did not interfere.

    There was nothing secret about the Disease Center or the Tuwaitha warehouses. Inspectors had repeatedly visited the center looking for evidence of a biological weapons program. The Tuwaitha warehouses included materials from Iraq's nuclear program, which had been dismantled after the 1991 Gulf War. The United Nations had sealed the materials, and they remained untouched until the US troops arrived.

    The looting that I observed was spontaneous. Quite likely the looters had no idea they were stealing deadly biological agents or radioactive materials or that they were putting themselves in danger. As I pointed out to Wolfowitz, as long as these sites remained unprotected, their deadly materials could end up not with ill-educated slum dwellers but with those who knew exactly what they were doing.

    This is apparently what happened. According to an International Atomic Energy Agency report issued earlier this month, there was "widespread and apparently systematic dismantlement that has taken place at sites previously relevant to Iraq's nuclear program." This includes nearly 380 tons of high explosives suitable for detonating nuclear weapons or killing American troops. Some of the looting continued for many months -- possibly into 2004. Using heavy machinery, organized gangs took apart, according to the IAEA, "entire buildings that housed high-precision equipment."

    This equipment could be anywhere. But one good bet is Iran, which has had allies and agents in Iraq since shortly after the US-led forces arrived.

    This was a preventable disaster. Iraq's nuclear weapons-related materials were stored in only a few locations, and these were known before the war began. As even L. Paul Bremer III, the US administrator in Iraq, now admits, the United States had far too few troops to secure the country following the fall of Saddam Hussein. But even with the troops we had, the United States could have protected the known nuclear sites. It appears that troops did not receive relevant intelligence about Iraq's WMD facilities, nor was there any plan to secure them. Even after my briefing, the Pentagon leaders did nothing to safeguard Iraq's nuclear sites.

    I supported President Bush's decision to overthrow Saddam Hussein. At Wolfowitz's request, I helped advance the case for war, drawing on my work in previous years in documenting Saddam's atrocities, including the use of chemical weapons on the Kurds. In spite of the chaos that followed the war, I am sure that Iraq is better off without Saddam Hussein.

    It is my own country that is worse off -- 1,100 dead soldiers, billions added to the deficit, and the enmity of much of the world. Someone out there has nuclear bomb-making equipment, and they may not be well disposed toward the United States. Much of this could have been avoided with a competent postwar strategy. But without having planned or provided enough troops, we would be a lot safer if we hadn't gone to war.

    Peter W. Galbraith, a former US ambassador to Croatia, is a fellow at the Center For Arms Control and Non-Proliferation. In the 1980s, he documented Iraqi atrocities against the Kurds for the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.
     
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    Thanks AJ. Now seeing what you posted, it appears you have let the perverbial "cat out of the bag" regarding WMD's. Especially ones of nuclear proportion. And all this time, you and the left kept saying that Saddam didn't have ANY materials, knowledge or parts that could be used for nuclear weapons a.k.a. WMD's.

    You really don't read what you post, do you? :l :l :l
     
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    We know what the high explosives have been used for don't we Neidermeyer -
    IED's to kill occupying American troops. No need for-seen by the Bush Team to secure those either.
     
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    Especially when they were never there to start with, according to you. :l
     
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    High explosives are not WMD's and you know it. :sp

    Still no WMD"s found as acknowledged by the Pentagon and the search has been officially suspended. Big news to Neidermeyer apparently.

    Even Bush has stated that no WMD's have been found, and he needed them more than Saddam.
     
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    Speaking from that military experience again AJ? :l

    So when Saddam has these "high explosives" exclusively for nuclear weapons along with over a million pounds of uranium, and the equipment to enrich it, how is it that it is not considered WMD's? :l

    Keep digging AJ. This is entertaining. :l :l
     
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    Why would Bush and the Pentagon state to the American public that no WMD's have been found in Iraq?
    Why would the Pentagon suspend the search if they thought they would still find WMD's?

    I guess the jihadist folks at the Pentagon do not have enough military experience to make such outlandish statements.
     
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    Maybe they were waiting on your expert military opinion on it. :l
     
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    Happy to oblige. :tu
     

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