I couldn't agree with you more.......I think it's important to establish trust and nurture good relationships with folks. And I wan't stereotyping outfitters with my statement - just pointing-out that people's reactions are dictated by behavior. There's a farmer in the area we hunt, that obviously had a bad experience with hunters. Most of the locals say he's about half crazy, anyway.....but I'd love to talk to him and find-out what made him turn. Then, maybe I'd have an oportunity to let him see that not ALL hunters are alike. I wonder if he was the fella that almost ran-down a group of hunters that set-up in his field without permission, with his pick-up truck.....liked to have hit one hunter - but, I say they did wrong to start with. One of our (my wife and myself) biggest concerns about freelancing in Canada, is making sure we don't interfere with local hunters or local outfitters. There have been a couple of times when a local ended-up in the same field with us after we had obtained permission, first. But the last thing i want to do is make an issue out of it. I don't care what the guy did - even if it means we don't get to hunt. It's just not worth stirring things up over. Now if it goes to a 1-time 6-day permit, I might have a slightly different attitude. Our first trip (4 years ago), we found a field fulla ducks during a snow and got permission. By the time we got our gear and got back to the field and got set-up, a local had seen the same thing and the Owner gave him permission, too. We didn't know about the other hunter until he came walking-up toward us to see if we'd bring our dog to help him find a couple of cripples in tall grass. I was absolutley horrified, thinking we set-up on top of this guy and never knew he was there. I was very apologetic and told him we would leave the field immediately. He told us the story and said we weren't bothering him, that it was better to have a few hunters spread-out in a field when they're feeding like that, because they don't get concentrated in one spot - away from your set-up. So, it worked-out. He didn't interfere with us either, and there were plenty of ducks. He was right about keeping them stirred-up with 2 different set-ups working. Then this past year, we got permission to hunt a field. We went out there to set-up and there was already somebody else there. It was the same guy from3 years ago. My wife walked-up and told him we had permission to hunt the field that afternoon. He said he did, too - and asked if we wanted to join him. About that time, I realized it was the same fella and even remembered his name. Naturally, I didn't want to encroach on him, so I kept the conversation short, thanked him and set-up in another field owned by the same farmer. Later that night, we had supper with the farmer and he had given the local permission to hunt the field with 2 grain bins in it - some 2 miles away from the one we found him in. I told him it wasn't a big deal.......which it really wasn't. We'd had one good hunt and had plenty of time to find some more birds another day. The last thing I want to do is give somebody any reason to resent my presence there.......even if they were wrong and it cost us a hunt. It's important to know where you are and realize that, regardless of what you think is 'right', you're a guest. There's a huge difference in feeling 'welcomed' and being 'tolerated', and I'm much more comfortable with the former.......when folks take an interest in you, and the hospitality extended, is 'genuine'. After all...it's just a duck!