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  1. Anatidae

    Anatidae Senior Refuge Member

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    Thanks for your comments on the post at the top of this page.

    DaveC......do you find that it's a little worse with folks going after snows than ducks or honkers? I'm not trying to bash anyone for hunting snows - it just seems they pattern differently and don't tend to fan-out to other fields from a roost ('hub') like ducks and especially honkers. Seems like snows decide on one field and 20bazillion try to hit that field at once......along with 20 hunters.

    I don't hunt snows, but I've noticed (from hearing fist-hand accounts) there seems to be more competition among those that DO, in September and early October when there's more 'tourists'. I think I've heard more horror stories about bad behavior with regard to getting on 'snows'...........and I think that's because of the time and equipment 'invested' in the effort.

    Boy! I can only imagine how cut-throat it could get if you went to a one-time 6-day license for snows, but I guess it depends on how heavily-publicized the area you choose to hunt is.
     
  2. Duck Marsh Nazi

    Duck Marsh Nazi Refuge Member

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    Yes I am kidding............., and yes I will wipe the drool off my chin before I knock on the door. I am sure there are areas up there that get quite a bit of pressure from both guides and freelancers. For me not knowing where to even start it was tough to decide where to try and give things a whirl. I had people trying to tell me that there was no room for freelancing in a few paticular areas. Not sure if this was B.S. or not so I took the advice of someone I hardly know and settled on an area. I will find out how good my decision was here in about 2 months I guess.

    I even decided to spend some time with a guide for a few days even though I am pretty hopeful I can experince quality hunting on my own. Sure it's more money, however the first part of trip should be a bit more relaxing (something even resembling a vacation :no ). Also in my mind I know that things are a bit different up there in regards to what I am use to hunting wise. I think observing effective tactics and techniques will lend to a better second part of my trip. I plan on making a pretty big jump away from the area that I will be hunting with the guide to insure I stay the hell away from the areas they depend for their operation.

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  3. Anatidae

    Anatidae Senior Refuge Member

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    That's a good approach - and I think most outfitters would appreciate your consideration......at least in the sense that you won't work the same area they were gracious enough to share with you on your guided hunts. Like you said, that's their livelihood and that should be respected.

    You hit on what I think is a key point - when folks flock to a heavily-publicized or 'popular' area, they can expect to encounter other hunters. What's funny is how many folks think those are the only places in Canada you can kill a duck. DUH! - you can't kill one if you can't get access to where they are. And that's the concern among residents - and rightly so......especially the guys that grew-up and live in or near those popular areas.

    That's why I crenge everytime a new article comes-out touting a certain area. 'Where-to-go' articles are the bane of the local hunter.

    Somebody mentioned Arkansas - prime example of overcrowding brought-on by publicity. Somebody thought it was a good idea to promote tourism. Now, unless they have the financial resources to buy or lease property, you're hunting is relagated to public land - very short in supply. The running joke is - if you plan on hunting public land in Arkansas, you better take your own tree, because there'll be somebody standing beside the ones that grow there, naturally. And you know the book those two fellas thought was such a good idea?......the Arkansas Waterfowler's Almanac?.......it would be more appropriately titled, 'The Idiot's Guide on How-to Screw-up the Locals Boys' Hunting'........it lists every known waterfowl hotspot in the state (what used to be, that is)

    And to think those magazine articles are written because a writer and a outfitter got together and traded a free hunt for free publicity that would cause an invasion of more joy-seekers wanting to get a piece of the action and more happy readers, content to dream about going somewhere besides their Lazy-Boy, the refrigerator and a urinal. The article just satisfies a deadline and hopefully generates enough revenue to keep the magazine afloat. The publicity generates revenue for those that cater to the crazed, frothing mob. Meanwhile the poor local hunter waits til mid-October when all those, wanting to be taken to what has become widely regarded as 'sport', finally retreat to warmer climes.....along with remnants of the mass migration.

    Sorry - 'didn't mean to ramble.......it's a little 'slow' down here in Dixie....plus, I get worked-up over commercialism of anyone's hunting heritage. Don't even get me started on 'hunting' videos......:rolleyes:

    Good luck on your trip - you'll do alright as long as you don't get in a big rush. It's more about reading 'patterns' than it is, any particular hunting technique.
     
  4. D.A.N.S

    D.A.N.S Elite Refuge Member

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    I see nothing has changed there is always one -------- who gets his cornflakes pee'd in and goes on a rant. Scotty i'm glad you get 5 birds to shoot your taxes go to pay the wages of the con officers and roads ect. I think people forget that they could be stopped from hunting in other states or provinces it isn't a right it is a privalage. As for guides well If I am planning atrip of a life time I would use one.
     
  5. passonhens

    passonhens Senior Refuge Member

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    NAZ,

    The sharing thing has only to do with taken kids with you...they are the future of everything we are about.

    If you are heading for Sk, I can only tell you to stay away from Wadena if you dont like crowds.
     
  6. Drylock2

    Drylock2 Refuge Member

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    Anatidae,
    Not looking to bash anyone, to each his own. But our group has definately noticed a difference in the attitudes of hunters who focus on different species. We moved our dates by 2 weeks to go as late as possible when the snows have moved out to avoid those groups that frequent the same area. Different style. Different manners. Different priorities. I choose to not be lumped in with them in the eyes of locals and not compete with them for fields. I've had run-ins in dark fields before and frankly and I'd rather just go to plan B. It's a big country and I'm confident I can find birds one way or another. Now I just avoid it all and sacrifice "peak migration" for a quality hunt experience...as I define it.
     
  7. Duck Marsh Nazi

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    This time the kid is taking the Dad hunting....., well I wish I was a kid (I'm 39)!
    He has never been and I really like for him to experince it while he still has his health.

    As for me I have not had any kids yet so I found some dudes half my age to hunt with. Nothing like having a couple of young ones in their early 20's to do all the hard work :grvn .

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  8. BIG BANG

    BIG BANG Elite Refuge Member

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    I take my Son with me and this causes him to mis a week of school(mom does not like it)but I figure what he learns going up north with me they sure dont teach in any school here!!!
    I cant say enough GREAT things about the wonderful hospitality I have experienced in Saskatchewan(I am sure all of Canada is like that) and cant wait to get back this year to see some of the FRIENDS I have made!!! I think being from Las Vegas gives us an edge as far as breaking the ice cuz once You tell some of the farmers that is where You live they just want to hear All of Your stories!!! Take care and every one have a safe and great season, Mike!
     
  9. STUBBLE BUM

    STUBBLE BUM Senior Refuge Member

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    BIG BANG - I routinely take the young lad out of school when the migration's on or in the spring for turkey season.

    One of the fellas I hunt with is a retired school principal and he told me once "Never let school get in the way of a good education."

    Very wise.
     
  10. havenhunter

    havenhunter Elite Refuge Member

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    Taking a kid out of school is fine if he is doing what is expected of him. Doing well in school? respectful? stays out of trouble? If the answer is yes to those questions then it is yes to a hunting trip. :tu
     

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