Myself, I hunted the Hay Flats on the open, and did ok. It was the first time I hunted a place that seemed like a war zone at the open. There were only a few sets left overnite and it seemed to be in areas that did not have a lot of hunters, maybe because of access or just being lazy. I'v hunted the interior with hardly any hunter of rather no hunter comp so it was interesting to say the least. I did not feel the left sets were a big deal and in fact I know it took more scouting and prep and work than many are willing to put out. If we want things even for us and the birds, how bout outlawing auto shotguns ??? Bet most would not like that. But, it would increase the birds in a few years like almost nothing else I bet !