I had 2 boxes of federal 3" #2s last year and after a couple hunts of knocking down birds and watching the get back up and fly away I went back to the cheap Winchesters and used the federals for clean up and they didn't do a good job at that either. And I wasn't sky busting. These birds were feet down and falling in the decoys. Anyway, I bought a box of Kent 3" BBs for geese and they seemed to be pretty good shells. What is your experience with them in duck loads?? How are they compared to the Winchesters??