Bakers and Surgeons

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  1. J.Bennett

    J.Bennett Elite Refuge Member

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    There is a big difference...

    The Christian bakeries in question would sell a wedding to cake to anyone who walks through their door unless they are a gay couple. A Muslim establishment would not sell pork to anyone be they Jew, Christian, Muslim, or gay.

    Now if a Muslim establishment refuses to sell something to someone that they regularly sell to anyone else who walks through their door, you would have a case.
     
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  2. stevena198301

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    You’ve missed the whole point. This is nonsense.

    They won’t sell a gay wedding cake to anyone. Not just homos.
     
  3. Bear

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    Yep...life is not always a sum positive outcome.

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  4. J.Bennett

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    Then the bakers should have told the gay couples that they don't make gay wedding cakes and asked them if they'd like to buy a straight wedding cake rather than refusing to sell them any wedding cake.

    Without an obviously gay cake topper, names, gay symbols, etc., how is a gay wedding cake different from a straight wedding cake? I mean, until you start putting those details on it, a wedding cake is pretty "asexual."

    If the baker would normally sell such an "asexual" cake to anyone else, refusing to sell that cake to a gay couple is discriminatory. It goes from "I don't make/sell those" to "I make/sell those but not for/to you."
     
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    Should a photographer be able to refuse to take photos at a gay wedding and if so, how is that not "I won't work for you?"
     
  6. stevena198301

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    My recollection was that they wanted them to decorate it in gayness. Baker refused. Offered to give them the stuff to do it themselves. Still doesn’t change the fact... a business has the right to refuse service to anyone. Doing so will cost them. Their loss. Let the market sort it out. Call the bakery down the road.
     
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    What if two gay guys asked for a cake in the shape of a penis. Do the bakers have to make it?
     
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    Thing is, when you realize that it is not state action to refuse to bake a cake or take pictures, the courts and this hair splitting analysis is not needed.
     
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    Isn't or wasn't there "community standards" laws or has that been ACLU wiped out?
     
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    Simple as that.
     

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