Ballot Initiative

Discussion in 'California Flyway Forum' started by Letumwork, Mar 6, 2018.

  1. Letumwork

    Letumwork Senior Refuge Member

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    Not sure if this has been discussed. The "Reducing crime and keeping California safe act of 2018" This ballot initiative is out getting signatures. Seems like a decent start to reverse some of the negative effects of prop 47 and AB 109. It's a start! We'll see where it goes. More Info- Google it or go to:
    https://keepcalsafe.org/
     
  2. Mean Gene

    Mean Gene Moderator Moderator Flyway Manager

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    Looks good.
     
  3. Brottboss

    Brottboss Elite Refuge Member

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    Assuming the MSM will not report or even expose this story it would require folks to self educate themselves to make an educated decision, which is highly unlikely nowadays.
    I like the idea, but the MSM is so in the Jerry Brown corner id expect this movement to disappear with zero tailwind.
    Its a shame where we are headed as the majority of CA voters are sheep.
     
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    Allinodad Senior Refuge Member

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    • Expand DNA collection to include those convicted of drug, theft, domestic violence and other serious crimes to help solve rape, murder and other violent crimes — and to exonerate those wrongly accused.
    Does anyone have a problem with the state collecting dna from low level offenders to create a database that might “potentially” help solve “more serious” crimes? Just curious. Cheers.
     
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    Tommyo Elite Refuge Member

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    To me I want to know how the low level is defined, among other things. Yes, could be problematic.
     
  6. Speckslayer

    Speckslayer Elite Refuge Member

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    Of course not. I don’t care if they did a dna test to get a drivers license. All it does is help with a match when a crime is committed.
     
  7. J-Duck

    J-Duck Elite Refuge Member

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    If you go to jail for anything these days you have to give your DNA or they wont release you
     
  8. API

    API PAF-CA Flyway Moderator Flyway Manager

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    Does it count if ya already spit into the tube for Ancestry.com?
     
  9. partyfowl

    partyfowl Senior Refuge Member

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    The state has DNA samples of almost every baby born in California since the early 80's. Police can and will request samples if they need. And I think they might even sell to third parties for research.

    I threw a fit when they tried to prick my 2-hour old children's feet to draw blood for a "State DNA Database" they hid on page 12 of the fine print at the hospital.
     
  10. API

    API PAF-CA Flyway Moderator Flyway Manager

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    At first I thought the sample collection was limited to screening of newborns for genetic issues, but after some searching looks like there's more to the practice. In case there is any doubt, here's some links confirming that collection happens pretty much nationwide, and there has been mandatory collection of DNA in CA since 1983.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newborn_screening

    http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/20...orn-blood-samples-stored-sold-to-3rd-parties/

    http://www.latimes.com/local/politics/la-me-pol-dna-privacy-20150202-story.html
     

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