exactly why I am getting out of breeding, not to make or a profit or anything else. Just sick and tired of the crap that is going on. There were 31 ads in the Seattle Times about AKC puppies,half of them had no certs and they are selling them for 600 and up. Here I am the little gal, doing her thing getting titles on my dogs getting the certs etc and my pedigrees are above average and what could have been sold at 750 and up 5 years ago can not hardly get 500 for, because Joe blow own the street is selling his for 350 and up with no certs,titles or anything. A friend of a friend has a litter of yellows right now,non registered pups for 200 and 250 and they are gone like hot cakes. no guarantee no anything.