Always funny when people talk solid science then talk about raising crops in Greenland sense if you bothered to learn that's all based on finding a handful of seeds at the bottom of a fire pit. Here's an exact quote of the discovery. "Researchers from the National Museum in Copenhagen say the answer to the question is ‘yes’. In a unique find, they uncovered very small pieces of charred grains of barley in a Viking rubbish heap on Greenland" Obviously unbelievably solid evidence cuz Lord knows they couldn't have brought some seeds over for making beer on their own but they claim they would have never done that they didn't have the room! But that leaves one question where the hell did they get the seeds to plant them with the begin with then.....yep rock solid! As for "Montana third coldest winter ever" please post up actual data on that because all I could find was Missoula having the third coldest winter ever even though they were only counting on a six-week period In December January and February. Mind you just like here it warmed dramatically after that point. Fact is that's weather not climate fact number two already stated we were not debating the cause we were debating the reality of what's Happening and there is absolutely no debating the fact that things are changing and changing substantially. This is north Dakota on Christmas week and I could not set a single foot onto our lake yesterday because it was less then an inch thick of ice. This is the latest freeze up ever and that record seems to be falling about every other year. So not sure about you but I'm seeing a bit of a trend here! Now we will be getting back to normal here for a bit but if dont get enough snow that turn the ground fully white you can guarantee that we'll rewarm up again soon enough.