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  1. tcc

    tcc Elite Refuge Member

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    The premium for 4wd is negligible compared to the money wasted on buying new.
     
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    theduckguru Elite Refuge Member

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    I keep hearing people say that - the same people who every 2 years are trading to another used vehicle because the one they have is experiencing mechanical issues.
     
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    tcc Elite Refuge Member

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    Interesting, I don't know many like that. I do know many who can't help their selves and trade in their 2yr old one they're upside down on in every few years because the new one has 2 more buttons on it. But they only buy 2wd, cause 4wd is just a waste of money. :yes
     
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    H20DAD Elite Refuge Member

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    Ban this person from the forum. They can’t be a duck hunter. Fing liberal trolls
     
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  5. Tuleman

    Tuleman Elite Refuge Member

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    Around here, 2WD pickups depreciate much faster than 4WD, especially in the first two or three years. Hardly anyone wants a two-wheel-drive pickup where I live. I have two old 4WD Chevy half-tons; one a 1984 and one a 2000. I just checked my maintenance log for last year, and I spent $35 for a new steering damper and $150 for a new starter for the '84, and $18 for a new steering column bearing plus $65 for an idler arm/bracket for the '00. Installed those items myself, so that was the total maintenance costs for each....and I would have had those expenses even if the trucks had been 2WD.
    I did spend just over $700 one year on the '84 to replace a broken U-joint and transmission tailshaft housing. You could consider this 4WD-related because it happened when I was out in conditions that I wouldn't have been in had the truck NOT been 4WD. :h
    If I was spending $2000/year on maintenance for either of those trucks, I'd sell them and buy something else.
    My insurance agent tells me there is no difference in cost between them and a 2WD. Now, I carry liability only and self-insure collision, but the difference in collision coverage between the two types is less than $50 a year.

    I have a locker in the rear of both vehicles, and have been in two situations where I was going nowhere until I engaged 4Low; at which point I drove right out. Engaging 4WD is a LOT quicker, easier, dryer, warmer, and cleaner than trying to winch out of a mudhole or snowbank....especially in places where there is nothing to anchor a winch to (and there are plenty of those where I hunt).

    Fuel costs? The difference between 16mpg and 18mpg in yearly fuel costs is not enough to offset the peace-of-mind that 4WD provides. Not for me, anyway.

    Granted, these are NOT daily drivers, they are 90% used for hunting in the winter and hauling yard waste to the city compost yard in the summer. (I have two Grand Cherokees for DD use...and they are 4WD also. :yes I've owned them for 10 years and have had ZERO 4WD-related maintenance on either one.)

    I think someone is overestimating the operating costs of a 4WD pickup vs. the same 2WD truck.
     
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  6. stevena198301

    stevena198301 Elite Refuge Member Supporting Member

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    I’ve been driving 4WDs for 23 years now, and have only ever had one 4WD issue. T-Case chain broke, and did so due to the operator. We high centered on a stump, about 10 miles from anywhere, in a clear cut when I was 10. Not a tree to be had. My dad somehow both spun the truck around, and broke the stump off in one 30 minutes he’ll raising session. I inherited the truck years later, with a bad T-Case.

    I’d love to see you get your 2WD down to the river bottom on my land. You better have one hell of a come along to get back up. Have fun carrying all that stuff the 1200 yards down and back up.
     
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  7. Mean Gene

    Mean Gene Moderator Moderator Flyway Manager

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    I wouldn't own a pickup without it being a 4x4.
     
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    callinfowl Kalifornia Forum

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    I don't use my four wheel drive very often these days, but it's nice knowing that it's there if it's ever needed.
    I could get by with a 2x but the resale on a 4x4 is much better around here. That being said If I was going to own a 2x it for sure would have a posi or limited slip rear end in it.
    I had an old 1976 Chevy 2x with a posi rear end that truck went places that most people wouldn't take a 4x4. You just had to remember to hammer down and hold on when things got a little dicey. I beat the snot out of that truck and it was still running strong when I sold it, it had close to 400.000 miles on it.
    I loved that old truck it was a beast.
     

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