Everybody is now talking gun control...anybody considering all of the mind altering drugs being

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  1. pintail2222

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    I find it fascinating watching people who will blame everybody else but themselves for their own faults.

    Hillary could be Queen of Narcissism. Wouldn't you agree? Her 2016 election was the Tragic Comedy of the Century - bar none.
     
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    A tragedy with a happy ending.

    Old "Nacho" Hillary as in Nacho your president.
     
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    How? Forcibly?
    Confiscating guns requires knowing who has guns and how many and what type. Are you willing to give all that information to your local police dept?
    There are hundreds of millions of guns in this country and 335 million people.
    Who/what defines "mental nut job?" A doctor with an anti-gun agenda could deem you mentally unstable. You okay with that?
     
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    You give the info at the time of diagnosis by a Mental Health specialist.

    As for a "doctor" with an anti-gun agenda could deem you mentally unstable... How exactly does that happen? A Primary Care physician doesn't have the ability to perform a comprehensive examination for Mental Health problems. A specialist would be the one who would make the diaganosis.
     
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    "A psychiatrist is a physician who specializes in psychiatry, the branch of medicine devoted to the diagnosis, prevention, study, and treatment of mental disorders. Psychiatrists are medical doctors, unlike psychologists, and must evaluate patients to determine whether their symptoms are the result of a physical illness, a combination of physical and mental ailments, or strictly psychiatric."

    WASHINGTON — The American Psychological Association expressed strong support for key components of President Obama’s plan to protect American children and communities by reducing gun violence.
    APA singled out the president’s proposals to:

    • Expand background checks for gun sales.
    • Increase the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms and FBI budgets to hire more agents and enforce existing gun laws.
    • Encourage states to report complete criminal history records, information on people disqualified because of a mental illness and qualifying crimes of domestic violence.
    • Support efforts by state attorneys general to renew domestic violence outreach.
     
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    Exactly. A Specialist is the one who knows what defines "mental nut job". Not you family Doctor, not you Proctologist, not your wifes OB/GYN, not your kids Pediatrician.

    It's not like you'd go in and have a colonoscopy and the left wing liberal anti-gun Proctologist notices the AK-15 tattoo on your rear end so he files a report claiming that you are mentally unstable and should not be allowed to own guns. He wouldn't have that authority to make that diagnoisis. Let alone access to anything to fill out and report a mental health evaluation.
     
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    There are also LOTS of people who probably need to be on medication, and aren't.
     
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    You seem to be missing my point. Anyone who can evaluate your mental fitness can have an anti-gun agenda and deem you unfit to own a gun for some arbitrary reason.

    The people who do that are mental health professionals, also known as psychiatrists. If you don't think psychiatrists as a group aren't anti-gun, you haven't been paying attention.

    Back to my original question, do you really want your name in a database that shows how many and what kind of guns you own?

    FWIW, the Vegas shooter had no previous psychological issues that are known. Your idea would not have prevented this.
     
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    Not Anyone can prescribe psychotropic drugs - which would be the reason for you not to have access to guns while you are on them. Not even your Proctologist.
     
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    What part of "psychiatrists are medical doctors" are you missing?
    What part of "the APA endorsed Obama's gun control measures" did you not see?
     

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