For those interested...the FBI Director to make statement at 11:00 Eastern time.

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  1. API

    API Political Action Forum Moderator Flyway Manager

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    How about a new thread.
     
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    Bear Elite Refuge Member

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    Done :tu
     
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    WoodieSC North/South Carolina Flyway Forum Moderator Flyway Manager

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    OK, even though it's a moot point, I'll concede that you say that Johnson backs concealed carry and gun ownership as a Constitutional Right, even though he personally isn't a gun owner.

    However, I back boodog about hearing Johnson say he's for 'open borders'.

    As stated, it's moot, since Johnson doesn't stand a chance, and I wouldn't vote for him anyway. Not that I wouldn't vote for a viable, strong, third party candidate, it's just that none have ever been presented as an option, despite the poor choices we have from the R's and D's.
     
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    Johnson wants open borders to drive down the price of smoke. :joker
     
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    WoodieSC North/South Carolina Flyway Forum Moderator Flyway Manager

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    Go read his web site. He's been an avid supporter of pretty much 'open immigration' since at least 2001.
     
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    Libertarians aren't afraid of standing on their own two feet and competing for jobs.

    They don't look to the government to protect them from the forces of the marketplace.
     
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    API Political Action Forum Moderator Flyway Manager

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    Don't care who's policy, this is a desirable position.
     
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    WoodieSC North/South Carolina Flyway Forum Moderator Flyway Manager

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    You haven't had much experience in life yet, have you? Your quotes from whatever political brochure sound good, but it's really just noise that doesn't address the real issues.

    It's not a matter of "government protection from the forces of the marketplace". It's the wisdom of knowing who you're allowing to enter the country... whether they'll be a benefit to society, or a drain on money and resources... whether they will most likely be positive members of society, or thugs like MS-13 gang members or supporters/members of any of the various terrorist organizations around the world. You should ensure that anyone interested in entering and requesting permanent residency or citizenship are readily willing to pledge their allegiance to the USA. If they're not willing to do that, they shouldn't be let across the border.
     
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    ^^^^ A voice of reason at last-somebody with an opinion based on historical perspective and unassailable truths rather than feelings devoid of insight. America's unique success as a nation of immigrants is solidly grounded on letting in people who want to assimilate and contribute to their own well being by being a productive member of the society they elected to join, which, in turn, contributes to the well being of their newly adopted country.
     
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    It's a great idealism, but largely not practical in many senses. There is not likely a way to guarantee anyones allegiance and various industries would scream and cry if they couldn't use immigrants on work visas. Heck, a great deal of those born here in the US from parents have been here for a long time, probably wouldn't agree on what the definition of allegiance is.
     

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