For those of you who voted for Oboma

Discussion in 'Political Action Forum' started by AV8R, Feb 26, 2009.

  1. six quack

    six quack Elite Refuge Member

    Sep 4, 2002
    Tarrant County, Texas
    This true story happened in England (I copied this from the Texas Forum):

    It is now closer to reality than you think. You're sound asleep when you hear a thump outside your bedroom door. Half-awake, and nearly paralyzed with fear, you hear muffled whispers. At least two people have broken into your house and are moving your way. With your heart pumping, you reach down beside your bed and pick up your shotgun. You rack a shell into the chamber, then inch toward the door and open it. In the darkness, you make out two shadows.

    One holds something that looks like a crowbar. When the intruder brandishes it as if to strike,
    you raise the shotgun and fire. The blast knocks both thugs to the floor. One writhes and screams while the second man crawls to the front door and lurches outside. As you pick up the telephone to call police, you know you're in trouble.

    In your country, most guns were outlawed years before, and the few That are privately owned are so stringently regulated as to make them useless. Yours was never registered. Police arrive and inform you that the second burglar has died. They arrest you for First Degree Murder and Illegal Possession of a Firearm. When you talk to your attorney, he tells you not to worry: authorities will probably plea the case down to manslaughter.

    "What kind of sentence will I get?" you ask.

    "Only ten-to-twelve years," he replies, as if that's nothing. "Behave yourself, and you'll be out
    in seven."

    The next day, the shooting is the lead story in the local newspaper. Somehow, you're portrayed as an eccentric vigilante while the two men you shot are represented as choirboys. Their friends and relatives can't find an unkind word to say about them. Buried deep down in the article, authorities acknowledge that both "victims" have been arrested numerous times. But the next day's headline says it all: "Lovable Rogue Son Didn't Deserve to Die." The thieves have been transformed from career criminals into Robin Hood-type pranksters. As the days wear on, the story takes wings. The national media picks it up, then the international media. The surviving burglar has become a folk hero.
    Your attorney says the thief is preparing to sue you, and he'll probably win. The media publishes reports that your home has been burglarized several times in the past and that you've been critical of local police for their lack of effort in apprehending the suspects. After the last break-in, you told your neighbor that you would be prepared next time. The District Attorney uses this to allege that you were lying in wait for the burglars.

    A few months later, you go to trial. The charges haven't been reduced, as your lawyer had so confidently predicted. When you take the stand, your anger at the injustice of it all works against you. Prosecutors paint a picture of you as a mean, vengeful man. It doesn't take long for the jury to convict you of all charges.

    The judge sentences you to life in prison. This case really happened.

    On August 22, 1999, Tony Martin of Emneth, Norfolk , England , killed one burglar and wounded a second. In April, 2000, he was convicted and is now serving a life term.

    How did it become a crime to defend one's own life in the once great British Empire ?

    It started with the Pistols Act of 1903. This seemingly reasonable law forbade selling pistols to minors or felons and established that handgun sales were to be made only to those who had a license. The Firearms Act of 1920 expanded licensing to include not only handguns but all firearms except shotguns.

    Later laws passed in 1953 and 1967 outlawed the carrying of any weapon by private citizens and mandated the registration of all shotguns.

    Momentum for total handgun confiscation began in earnest after the Hungerford mass shooting in 1987. Michael Ryan, a mentally disturbed Man with a Kalashnikov rifle, walked down the streets shooting everyone he saw. When the smoke cleared, 17 people were dead.

    The British public, already de-sensitized by eighty years of "gun control", demanded even tougher restrictions. (The seizure of all privately owned handguns was the objective even though Ryan used a rifle.)

    Nine years later, at Dunblane , Scotland , Thomas Hamilton used a semi-automatic weapon to murder 16 children and a teacher at a public school.

    For many years, the media had portrayed all gun owners as mentally unstable, or worse, criminals. Now the press had a real kook with which to beat up law-abiding gun owners. Day after day, week after week, the media gave up all pretense of objectivity and demanded a total ban on all handguns. The Dunblane Inquiry, a few months later, Sealed the fate of the few sidearm still owned by private citizens.

    During the years in which the British government incrementally took Away most gun rights, the notion that a citizen had the right to armed self-defense came to be seen as vigilantism. Authorities refused to grant gun licenses to people who were threatened, claiming that self-defense was no longer considered a reason to own a gun. Citizens who shot burglars or robbers or rapists were charged while the real criminals were released.

    Indeed, after the Martin shooting, a police spokesman was quoted as saying, "We cannot have people take the law into their own hands."

    All of Martin's neighbors had been robbed numerous times, and several elderly people were severely injured in beatings by young thugs who had no fear of the consequences. Martin himself,
    a collector of antiques, had seen most of his collection trashed or stolen by burglars.

    When the Dunblane Inquiry ended, citizens who owned handguns were given three months to turn them over to local authorities. Being good British subjects, most people obeyed the law. The few who didn't were visited by police and threatened with ten-year prison sentences if they didn't comply. Police later bragged that they'd taken nearly 200,000 handguns from private citizens.

    How did the authorities know who had handguns? The guns had been registered and licensed.
    Kind of like cars.
    Sound familiar?
  2. flashman

    flashman Elite Refuge Member

    Sep 26, 2000
    Oasis, Idaho
    How about this poor lady?

    And then there are these kids getting their educational hopes squished by the Obama administration.

    Best part of the latter is Gibbs - Press Secretary - trying to avoid defending the indefensible:

  3. DocRay

    DocRay Elite Refuge Member

    Jul 12, 2007
    Gibbs HAHAHAHA, the one guy Obama hopes tax issues surface about and he can let him go.
  4. seastreet

    seastreet Banned

    Dec 5, 2002
    Downeast, NC

    Bozo? You are the one who first botched the definition, and then had to look it up to get your foot retracted from your piehole. :l

    The states determine who is classified as potential militia. In NC, any able bodied male between the ages of 16-60 fit the profile. Put that in your pipe and smoke it. :l
  5. RW

    RW Elite Refuge Member

    Apr 1, 2003
    infamous state of chicago
    What part of the 2nd amendment do you not understand?:scratch

    Read below....
  6. Steve Borgwald

    Steve Borgwald Elite Refuge Member

    Sep 12, 2000
    Or search on Heller.
  7. kellys

    kellys Elite Refuge Member

    Nov 26, 2006
    Wichita Kansas
    Thomas Jefferson in some cases could be called a prophet.

    When we get piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe,
    we shall become as corrupt as Europe .Thomas Jefferson

    The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
    who are willing to work and give to those who would not.Thomas Jefferson

    It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes.
    A principle which if acted on would save one-half the wars of the world. Thomas Jefferson

    I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the
    government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense
    of taking care of them. Thomas Jefferson

    My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results
    from too much government. Thomas Jefferson

    No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. Thomas Jefferson

    The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear
    arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government. Thomas Jefferson

    The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of
    patriots and tyrants. Thomas Jefferson

    To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which
    he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical. Thomas Jefferson

    Very Interesting Quote

    In light of the present financial crisis, it's interesting to read what Thomas
    Jefferson said in 1802:

    'I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than
    standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control
    the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and
    corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all
    property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers

    Funny how some things never change like the truth, Not the distorted views which some preach as the truth, Actions are the source for all great moments in history, Words accomplish little with out the actions to bring about the fulfillment of words. Our founding fathers grew weary of the folks across the pond looking down their noses at us stupid colonialists, In blunt terms we were told to shut up and pay our taxes and be happy about it, Men and women with far more to lose that many of us here today said enough. A war was fought to give us the right to live here and enjoy the freedoms we all enjoy, Including speaking whats on your mind. Yes we may snicker when a certain segment of our society gets it rights stepped on but its only a matter of time before they may be the ones snickering when its our turn. Kelly

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