IFSteve, I know that I am one of the green jello and carrot hunters but I agree with all of ya. Leases have ruined the hunting in our state and I would love to see a no-lease law passed kind of like the no-club/guide law. I am sorry that out of state hunters seem to be the problem, because yes 650 is a good deal for someone comming from utah. I myself can not afford it. But, you cant blame us for wanting a place to hunt where we can kill birds and not deal with the huge crowds and morons we have down here. I know for those of us who hunt Idaho its kind of an unwritted law that you dont mention it too other utahns in fear of a invasion. If infact you dont buy a res. tag me and my buddies would be glad to take you out on the white mans side, we have some great places to hunt over there that produce regularly and would love for anyone on this forum to join us sometime.