Please don't take my comments as any sort of insult, LOTS of people love their Beavertails. I had previously had an Avery and liked the flip tops and compact inside the gunnels storage. They also have issues. I have come to appreciate the value and enjoyment of home made stuff and had the time to spend on my own design. And it has been totally rebuilt once due to a tree falling on it and re engineered / tweaked a few times as well.