Handling

Discussion in 'Gun Dog Forum' started by craig wilson, Aug 25, 2017.

  1. craig wilson

    craig wilson Elite Refuge Member

    Messages:
    3,303
    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2008
    Location:
    california
    How concerned should I be when my dog refuses to pick up a single dummy, always brings back 2 when I send him to the pile? I spread them out, but he insists on 2
     
  2. bullpinnie

    bullpinnie Elite Refuge Member

    Messages:
    4,371
    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2000
    Location:
    St. Louis
    What are you wanting to do with the dog?...Hunting only, or compete in trials, or hunt tests?

    If hunting only, I wouldn't worry too much about it.

    I'm not a pro, and have never had this problem with any of my dogs, but It should be fairly easy to fix. If you do wagon wheel drills, you should be able to train the dog "no" when lining/sending the dog. set up short drill where you have control. Once the dog gets the idea ladder backing 5 yard increments.

    I'm sure some folks on here will want to know what training program you following, but IMO, Attrition is probably all the correction you'll need initially. If your dog is collar conditioned, and already knows "no".then it really shouldn't be a problem at all. If your like me, and seldom use an Ecollar, you can use a check cord and a pinch collar.
     
  3. bruce

    bruce Elite Refuge Member

    Messages:
    2,268
    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2001
    Location:
    indiana
    I'm not qualified to give a helpful suggestion but..... It sounds like he's a "smart shopper!"
     
  4. craig wilson

    craig wilson Elite Refuge Member

    Messages:
    3,303
    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2008
    Location:
    california
    Just driving to the pile right now
     
  5. KwickLabs

    KwickLabs Elite Refuge Member

    Messages:
    4,153
    Joined:
    May 11, 2001
    Location:
    Roscoe, IL
    Switch to 3" bumpers (without ropes) and spread them out. :h
     
    Last edited: Aug 25, 2017
    Doc E and duckbuster5901 like this.
  6. labrador

    labrador Senior Refuge Member

    Messages:
    159
    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2002
    Location:
    South Dakota
    1. attach rope to dog and send dog to pile on "back"
    2. command here and jerk rope when dog gets to pile
    3. don't freak if dog drops bumper or comes back, ear pinch to bumper
    4. repeat step 2
    don't take short cuts or expect your dog to do something your haven't properly educated him to do....
     
  7. Doc E

    Doc E Elite Refuge Member Sponsor

    Messages:
    20,929
    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2000
    Location:
    Colville WA USA
    Have you trained "Fetch --- No Fetch" ("leave it") ?
    .
     
  8. Timber Hole

    Timber Hole Senior Refuge Member

    Messages:
    721
    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2015
    Location:
    MO
    Sounds like some rope work is in order.
     
  9. labrador

    labrador Senior Refuge Member

    Messages:
    159
    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2002
    Location:
    South Dakota
    A rope is one of the most important tools a trainer of young dogs can employ. I don't understand why folks are so eager to ditch this tool. My young dogs drag a light 10-12 ft line all the way through T work. If things ever get sloppy you can get after it right away without resorting to button pushing in what is an already a most likely confused or stressed dog. I usually ditch it right at the end of double T when I am doing sends from my side after teaching everything else from a front finish.
     
  10. bullpinnie

    bullpinnie Elite Refuge Member

    Messages:
    4,371
    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2000
    Location:
    St. Louis
    another thought, you could switch from bumpers, to dokkens , or ducks, (and keep them spread out) but as Dock E stated, eventually you will need to teach "NO", "No-fetch", or "Leave it".
     

Share This Page