How many pellets per bird

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  1. California Flyway

    California Flyway Elite Refuge Member

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    If you really like ducks for table fare number of hits is an issue. If ducks are real close I like to let them get out a little if possible. It is also why I shoot a good amount of #2 shot loads.
     
  2. dwhauss

    dwhauss Senior Refuge Member

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    I hate to shoot up a sprig, but if spoons or widgeon get multiple in the breast, they get turned into sausage so I just dig out all the blood taint.
     
  3. Native NV Ducker

    Native NV Ducker Mod-Duck Hunters Forum, Classifieds, and 2 others Moderator Flyway Manager

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    Shooting ducks is a compromise.
    If the birds are close, an open choke and smaller shot works great. That is usually my situation. IC and 4's, followed by LtMod and 3's. I have killed and eaten about 45 birds this year (I am OUT of duck:cry) and I have found 4 pellets. I have only blown up one bird, and that one swung in from behind, so my shot was close, 3/4 quartering away. No way to get in 'front' of him. Tore up the front 1/4 of the breast.

    If birds are further, you need bigger pellets, but tighter chokes, to keep the density up. It isn't about hitting the bird, it is about hitting a vital. So, 2's, out of a Lt Mod or Mod are great between 35 and 45 yards. But, if they get in close, you are gonna blow them up. 40-50 yards, you probably need an ImpMod.

    It was mentioned you need 2-3 hits to the vitals for a kill. I would amend that to 1-3 hits. Head/Neck shots just need one pellet. I actually don't see the issue with the OP's experience of 7-14 hits on a bird. That isn't blowing them up, far from it.
     
  4. dwhauss

    dwhauss Senior Refuge Member

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    I'm going to imp cyl for tomorrow, see how that goes. In the past my shooting was hit or miss, and was not uncommon to sail birds. I still retrieved them, good dog, but I changed how I aim and it has made a world of difference. That said, I felt more shot was better so I went to #4 and 5's. Now, might have to go back to 3's. Thanks for all the feedback, I am going to work on my focus, work more for head shots.
     
  5. Native NV Ducker

    Native NV Ducker Mod-Duck Hunters Forum, Classifieds, and 2 others Moderator Flyway Manager

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    More shot IS better, but, again, that 'compromise' thing.
    I have never shot 5's. I have killed geese at extreme close ranges (head shooting, and inside 25 yards, special situation) with 6's, and carry some for swat loads sometimes. I have read a fair amount of guys that shoot 5's for teal, and timber.
    Personally, for MY hunting conditions, 4's are my first shell. I am a big believer in the head/neck kill. Again, I see a LOT of that in my hunting.
    When asked, for ONE pellet size, 3's are what I say. Fine out to 40+ yards, and don't need to be choked down to keep good pattern density.
    I carry 4's, 3's, and 2's in my bag, for my 20ga. I have more 3's than anything, though I shoot more 4's, because they are the first shot out.
     
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  6. blacktail

    blacktail Elite Refuge Member

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    I used to be a strictly modified factory choke. Always did well. I shoot a double gun exclusively now. Switched to a IC on bottom barrel and IM on top. Without a doubt my non crippled, non tore up birds has almost vanished. I’m not concerned about stretching the shot out to 45-50 with those open chokes. Wish I would’ve done it years ago.
    With that said, i did break my first ever tooth this year on a pellet. That sucked.
     
  7. bang you'r dead

    bang you'r dead Canada Forum Mod. Eh! Moderator Flyway Manager

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    ...and when you get a head/brain/spine kill, you get to know them, as the bird will fold up completely , and go instantly limp. Instant kill, easy retrieve.
     
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  8. Il. MudDuk

    Il. MudDuk Elite Refuge Member

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    In the off season when almost any bird fly's by, I'll look at it and I tell myself to focus on the head / leading edge as practice for what to concentrate on come duck season.....I think it helps.

    NOT looking at the bird itself, but rather the head, has helped my shooting ( somewhat difficult when I think its a natural instinct to look at the flashing wings ).
     
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  9. bill cooksey

    bill cooksey Elite Refuge Member

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    Yep. You can practice on anything moving. I tell the kids I've coached in trap to focus on the leading edge of the target. The more they are able to focus, the slower the target becomes.
     
  10. Ravenanme

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    For just a suggestion , I trained my Boys with the use of a (2") styrofoam ball attached to a 5 ft string ! I put a nail on the patio's eve so there would be
    a backstop behind the ball as it hung freely . We just give the ball a swing and practice hitting it with the BB-gun , it does take a forward allowance to make
    a hit , it also takes more lead as you move back away from it . The interesting thing you learn as well is , how to rotate your body in order to make the shot
    easier......Give it a try , we still use it today as a refresher to shooting on the wing and it will cure a lot of problems , you might have !
     

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