Lesbian wedding cake

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  1. Bear

    Bear Elite Refuge Member

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    There is a strong debate going on right now as to whether humans should be considered a direct descendant, on the Taxonomy of Humans, of the Great Apes or they branched off and broke lineage.

    I am a believer in the former. However, watching some of the discussion commentary on the PAF over the years, the Apes would probably prefer the latter. :nutz

    Some disciplines of merit believe the Great Apes and Chimpanzees should be considered a race of the human genus/species.

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/terms/hominidae.htm

    Hominidae
    The hominids are the members of the biological family Hominidae (the great apes), which includes humans, chimpanzees, gorillas, and orangutans.

    The exact criteria for membership in the Homininae are not clear, but the subfamily generally includes those species which share more than 97% of their DNA with the modern human genome, and exhibit a capacity for language or for simple cultures beyond the family or band.
     
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    So you have it right there, they are not humans. :)
     
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    Dang it - I saw that you posted here and was hoping to receive my education relative to what part of the United States' Constitution these bakers violated in refusing to bake a cake for a same sex couple.

    Maybe next time. :)
     
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    Yeah maybe next time :) Have a awesome new years!
     
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    LOL... Don't think Dad minded showing up at the courthouse that morning and the admin assistant enjoyed the break from the daily grind...
     
  6. Bear

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    Neither are Liberals...but at least the Great Apes have an excuse. :no:no:no
     
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    At least you are not a person (human) with extream views Bear :no :no :no :doh
     
  8. Bear

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    I have no opinions...I'm just here for the beer...plus...Liberals are so much easier to point and laugh at. :yes:yes:yes

    IMOO
     
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    There is a big difference between a religious organization refusing to perform a religious ceremony in their place of worship that would be in violation of that organization's religious beliefs and a private business refusing to provide a non religious service that they regularly provide to the general public (regardless of their customers' beliefs/practices) because that particular customer's lifestyle is one which they don't agree with... One is an example of religious freedom and the other is an example of bigotry.

    A marriage ceremony performed by a pastor is a religious rite. Baking a cake is not.

    That depends. Does my pizza shop regularly make vegan pizzas for non-Hindi customers? If my pizza shop does not make vegan pizzas for anyone, he can not force me to make a vegan pizza for him (regardless of reasons for wanting a vegan pizza) any more so than I could walk into an Italian restaurant and force them to serve me sushi. If my pizza shop does make vegan pizzas upon request, then yes he could force me to make the pizza because it is something that I would do for anyone else that asked for it.

    Yes there is a big difference because the Christian baker is being asked to depict (through either symbols or words) something that would be contrary to their beliefs.

    A wedding cake is not sacred. Baking a cake is not in violation of any Christian tenet that I am aware of (regardless of what the cake will ultimately be used for or who will be eating it).

    Now, before everyone starts calling me a liberal socialist so-and-so, I agree with many on this board that in a perfect world a private business should be free to serve or not serve whoever they choose on whatever basis that they want and let the marketplace decide their fate. Unfortunately, our country's history has shown that such a free market typically doesn't end well.
     
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    There was a small dust-up here where Muslims were having issues with pork or non-Islamic food preparations in school cafeterias. I don't know what the end conclusion was. One of those news forgot about issues.

    I'll try to find a link...later.
     

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