Military status and tech and is our money spent wisely

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  1. API

    API Political Action Forum Moderator Flyway Manager

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    Depending upon mission, carrier launch operations typically include air to air tankers. The fighter and bomber payload at launch is focused upon armament.

    BTW... for perspective, the primary carrier based fighter during the Vietnam war was the F4B Phantom II at $6 million each.
     
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    F35 is already obsolete - as is the F22. The future is already here in the drones.

    Not just the predators/reapers and global hawks that are running around now. Eventually you will see drone swarms that can defeat any AA defense. The concept of air superiority will be industrial and technical - whoever can build the most and most advanced. Some could even carry tactical nukes.

    Can't tell you what the future will look like, because it is changing constantly.
     
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    API made a point...how fast and maneuverable is required of an aircraft in air superiority? As an exaggerated example and from a laymen's perspective it would seem air to air combat would "just" need a comprable speed aircraft fighting with software and missles instead of as Native pointed out capable of pulling pilot puddle making G's.

    Stealth would be important too however computers could react and determine threat much quicker by far than any human pilot could possibly accomplish.

    Why spend hundreds and hundreds of millions on one individual unit when $10,000,000 and missiles and software would do?

    Asking for a friend.
     
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    API Political Action Forum Moderator Flyway Manager

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    Good question. Are we thinking air superiority in terms of earth bound threats or potentially dealing with craft from beyond our solar system?
     
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    How expensive can a brick with wings possibly be?:grvn
     
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    If we think sr71...Think when that was in active use and how great it was....That's old skunk works stuff what do we have now?
    I have no problem with my tax dollars developing things like aurora project or tr3b.
    At some point we will need to use these things, however they came about.
    F35...we will see...
    After researching the f35 further I have to say there is a reason others are buying them...
    We as the public are maybe fifty years behind the cutting edge of tech...
    Maybe NK will end up as a showcase...
     
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    API Political Action Forum Moderator Flyway Manager

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    Expensive enough so that if ya put big enough jet engines on the brick it will fly. :l
     
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    That's in a conventional war Bear with an enemy we can fight conventionally, ever since Vietnam we haven't been fighting conventional wars. No matter how fast and how good you make aircraft they have to have targets to go after, today threats are mobile and unidentifiable a lot of times. Afghanistan is a good example of that, you don't know who your enemy is till they start firing on you then when you have a force in place to deal with it they disappear into the mountains or run across the border into Pakistan.
    Nobody is going to go head to head with us if they think they can't win, instead they use guerilla/terror tactics to try and disable our troops and discourage us from fighting on. No matter how sophisticated our weapons get there's little to no defense against these kinds of threats.
     
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    you are spot on. not going to go any more in depth other than to say that current fielded black tech is scary. FYI i'm not even in "the know".
     

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