Military status and tech and is our money spent wisely

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  1. possumfoot

    possumfoot Elite Refuge Member

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    even a slight change in ROE and its a whole different game. public opinion is currently a major factor. it is also fluid, as is the importance place upon it.
     
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    The brick and it's wings weren't expensive. What was expensive was the pair of J79s that pushed the whole contraption through the air.
     
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    Native NV Ducker Mod-Duck Hunters Forum, Classifieds, and 2 others Moderator Flyway Manager

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    Well, that leads to the other 'common' comment about the F-4

    "America's proof to the world that, if you put big enough engines on it, even a brick will fly."

    Just poking at the F-4. Solid airframe, did a lot of things well. It had a problem in ONE area, knife fighting with Migs.
     
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    Met a guy at a gun store one time and he was a quiet accountant looking type. After he left one of the clerks asked me if I knew him and I said no. The clerk then said the guy had been shot down in F-4s three times in Vietnam. I didn't ask how. One of the other guys who was part of the business that had been in Vietnam said Yep...

    The F-4 Phantom is one of my favorite "classic" jet fighters.
     
  5. API

    API Political Action Forum Moderator Flyway Manager

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    The only time F4s I was involved with were configured with machine guns was when they were mounted on wing pods for strafing. Zuni rockets were similarly mounted. For dog fighting, the primary weapons were heat seeking Sidewinders and radar guided Sparrow III missiles. Defensively, if they had enough fuel on board, F4s could outrun any Mig. Still, in Vietnam, like most attack type aircraft, the F4's primary usage was as dump trucks hitting targets with assorted bombs and air to ground missiles like Shrike and Bullpup.
     
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    Those lil rockets are cool.
     
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    API Political Action Forum Moderator Flyway Manager

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    Given the times and circumstances, they worked too.
     
  8. API

    API Political Action Forum Moderator Flyway Manager

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    Think of the military life experience in terms of social consciousness...

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