Since the Migration Thread seems to have been hijacked by the "complain about MDC" crowd we might as well start a thread just for that. All of this talk about these refuges being full of corn now and how this has changed bird patterns needs to be backed up by actual data. You say Fountain has more corn planted in their refuge then ever before? Which refuge was planted? How much corn did they put in? How does that compare to years past? Which refuge is Fountain running water through to keep it open? Have they done this in the past? What is the objective? Does that align with stated goals of the Flyway Council? I would agree that if it is being done solely to manipulate numbers to keep up "bird use days" that would not be an acceptable reason. If you inferring that it is being done for the benefit of Habitat Flats I would agree that is not acceptable either! We go up to Fountain once or twice a year for 2 or 3 days to hunt and have been for 25 years. As far as I remember they have always tried to get corn in the hunting pools if the weather allows for it. It seems to me that there is more quality managed habitat in the area around Fountain now then ever before which has the ducks spread out much more. We also travel to Eagle Bluffs, Otter Slough and Duck Creek each year. Occasionally we will head to Ted Shanks, Ten Mile or Grand Pass. I enjoy the diversity of hunting as many different places as possible. I think it would be beneficial for us as hunters and Missouri residents to talk about what we feel MDC does right in this regard and what they may be able to do better. There are plenty of you guys that have local ties to these Conservation Areas and can give perspective to what has changed on these places over the long term for better or worse. My personal opinion on this years harvest and flight patterns has nothing to do with the amount of corn planted in a refuge somewhere as the ducks will always go to where the food is. I believe that we had a much smaller hatch due to the cold late spring than what the published numbers were. This combined with an early migration due to the cooler than normal temps up north moved a lot of birds into the area early and they have been here ever since getting educated and stale. A small # of young dumb ducks combined with a large # of older educated ducks makes for tough hunting.