More Success for Antihunters Hunting in Washington State

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  1. AmiableLabs

    AmiableLabs Elite Refuge Member

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    The following was captured from AR-NEWS, an email news list for animal rights activists.

    --------------------------------------------------<br />Field of Dreams Hunting Club 10/27/01<br />"Shoot and they will come."

    Hunting Trip Huge Success<br />State Wildlife Department Confirms Legality of Hunt

    Field of Dreams hunters, just back from this week's hunting excursion at beautiful Crescent Lake, WA, believe that they are getting ever closer to their first duck kill.

    "Hunters tell us that they only kill animals once every four or five hunting trips." remarked Field of Dreams hunter Bob Chorush. "We've been hunting three times now, so the odds are improving every time we go out. We were outsmarted by the ducks this time, but they're bound to slip up if we keep at it."

    Field of Dreams hunters were disappointed with the behavior of their fellow hunters. All but two of the other hunters at Crescent Lake left the wildlife area shortly after the arrival of the Field of Dreams hunters; and then, only after they had called a Washington State Department of Fish and Wildlife Enforcement officer apparently to whine about their lack of hunting success.

    The DFW Enforcement officer assured herself that Field of Dreams hunting licenses were in order and that hunters were only using non-toxic shot as required by law. Club members reiterated their intention to stay within the law.

    The Enforcement Officer informed Field of Dreams Hunting Club members that harassing a hunter is against the law, despite the fact that Field of Dreams hunters have never been harassed. Nonetheless, it is useful to know that DFW will respond should our hunters be harassed.

    "Sport" hunters kill almost 100,000 ducks yearly in Washington with countless thousands of others injured and unrecovered. As well, another 100,000 migratory birds such as geese , grouse, doves, snipes, quail and chukar are killed yearly. The Department of Fish and Wildlife uses state funds to cage raise pheasant who are released and gunned down for sport.

    The weapon of choice for sport hunting of waterfowl is the 12 gauge shotgun which fires a cartridge containing dozens of tiny steel balls. As they are projected from the barrel of the gun they start to spread in a pattern creating a moving wall of death for any bird or birds unfortunate enough to be in its path.

    Field of Dreams hunters are real sportspersons. We give the ducks the option of flying into our fusillade or not, as they choose. Sure, it's tougher hunting, but at least it's fair.

    Field of Dreams hunters vow to continue their duck hunts until they get their legal limit.

    Photos: <a href="http://home.mindspring.com/~bob19/fieldofdreams/" target="_blank">http://home.mindspring.com/~bob19/fieldofdreams/</a><br /> <a href="http://www.heraldnet.com/Stories/01/10/21/14580883.cfm" target="_blank">http://www.heraldnet.com/Stories/01/10/21/14580883.cfm</a>
     
  2. The Other David

    The Other David Elite Refuge Member

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    They're jerks, but they're pretty clever jerks! I got a smile out of the story.

    Now, how can we sabotage their sabotage?
     
  3. cengel

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    hows bout we slide 8 or 10 canvasbacks into their car while theyre out on the lake? Then a well placed phone call, drop the tailgate, grab a beer, and watch the fun
     
  4. youngduck1

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    hey tell them thank for the money they spent on the stamps and license be cause that just help us the hunter and maybe we should ask them out for a duck dinner <img src="biggrin.gif" border="0"> <img src="biggrin.gif" border="0"> <img src="biggrin.gif" border="0"> but maybe cengel <br />right and then they can give more money too the <br />DNR <img src="biggrin.gif" border="0">
     
  5. soggy boots

    soggy boots Senior Refuge Member

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    Its only funny till you have to put up with some of these idiots out here
     
  6. mlhunter

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    What are we going to do about this? I would be upset if my hunt ended because of these morons. Why don't they just let us enjoy our hunting and leave us alone.
     
  7. Steve Borgwald

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    Geez, it's harrassment in my book.
     
  8. Otto

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    MLHunter there is oh so much we can do!! and we are doing it as we speak,,you are more than welcome and encouraged to help. We need you! go and click on the cougar at the Wa. page.
     
  9. We are really disappointed with the duck hunting community because of your aggressive tactics and willingness to act outside the law to promote your position.

    Our hunting club has been acting within the law every step of the way. We have Wildlife Department Enforcement Officers observing our every move (a service which more than makes up for the few dollars we've spent on license fees). We have completed ALL requirements for licensing, ammo usage, permits, registrations, etc.

    Your moderator's first response to our hunting methods is to wonder how to sabotage us; despite the fact that we are legal hunters. Your member cengel suggests illegally breaking into our vehicles to plant evidence against us.

    Some sportsmen! Perhaps those of you who respond this way would be better off pursuing hobbies or careers outside the law, since you have such little respect for it.

    As for Washingtonians for Wildlife Conservation, we are really surprised that this group is still around after their long, unbroken record of failures - loss of dog hunting, loss of cougar hunting, loss of furbearer trapping... Why anyone would want to back losers like this, we don't know; but similarly we didn't see Otto's promised plan to defeat us on their website.

    As we have repeatedly said, we are legal hunters. If you don't like it, change the hunting laws or get over it. The less-than-five-percent of WA citizens who hunt are an almost insignificant constiutency in the state, so be sure to propose new legislation or initiatives!

    The proportion of slob hunters in this five percent is really high. Like many other hunters, we are fed up with picking up garbage left behind by hunter slobs.

    Hunters have acted outside the law and without public strutiny for far too long. Washington citizens are tired of paying the state to grow pheasants so you can shoot them. Washington citizens are tired of camoflaged, armed terrorists littering their wetlands and devastating their wildlife.
     
  10. The Other David

    The Other David Elite Refuge Member

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    Fieldofdreams,

    Thanks for your letter. We're always glad to have visitors drop by.

    I'd like to address your points, and welcome your responses.

    "We are really disappointed with the duck hunting community because of your aggressive tactics and willingness to act outside the law to promote your position."

    Our aggressive tactics? And how would you describe your silly yellow duck setup? Your activities are nothing more than an attempt to disrupt hunting, even if you are trying to do it within legal parameters. And even though someone mentioned putting some ducks in your truck, you don't mention any actions (as opposed to what someone would like to do). BTW, I am waiting to hear you condemn, without qualification, every act of violence and terrorism carried out by organizations such as Earth First and ALF. Until then, your concern about "act outside the law" is a non-starter.

    "Our hunting club has been acting within the law every step of the way. We have Wildlife Department Enforcement Officers observing our every move (a service which more than makes up for the few dollars we've spent on license fees). We have completed ALL requirements for licensing, ammo usage, permits, registrations, etc."

    Actually, you are stretching the truth calling your organization a "hunting club". But I am glad to hear that you are obeying the law. Gosh, so am I, everytime I go out. We DO have something in common after all! We're law-abiding citizens!

    I am curious about the registrations. Are they for your guns? And aren't you proud of wasting tax-payers money having the DNR monitor your activities?

    "Your moderator's first response to our hunting methods is to wonder how to sabotage us; despite the fact that we are legal hunters. Your member cengel suggests illegally breaking into our vehicles to plant evidence against us."

    Your moderator (me) would still like to find a way to sabotage your activities, but only in some legal way. Like I said, we're both law-abiding citizens. Why would I like to sabotage your activities? Because you are attempting to sabotage legal duck hunting. Please, no nonsense about your "hunting club". Actually, I though that the idea of putting some ducks in your truck was funny, certainly a lot funnier than destroying medical research laboratories, don't you think (until I get an unqualified condemnation of ALL of these types of activities, you have no credibility)? But I do not think we should break the law just to get back at you. Let me know if/when this has actually happened, and I will condemn it (still waiting).

    <br />"Some sportsmen! Perhaps those of you who respond this way would be better off pursuing hobbies or careers outside the law, since you have such little respect for it."

    Huh? You lost me here. Would you suggest hobbies such as throwing paint on people wearing fur, or taking over McDonalds and Burger Kings?

    "As for Washingtonians for Wildlife Conservation, we are really surprised that this group is still around after their long, unbroken record of failures - loss of dog hunting, loss of cougar hunting, loss of furbearer trapping... Why anyone would want to back losers like this, we don't know; but similarly we didn't see Otto's promised plan to defeat us on their website."

    Sorry, not familiar with the issue, can't address it.

    "As we have repeatedly said, we are legal hunters."

    Horse manure.

    "If you don't like it, change the hunting laws or get over it. The less-than-five-percent of WA citizens who hunt are an almost insignificant constiutency in the state, so be sure to propose new legislation or initiatives!"

    Well, in Virginia and a couple of other states the constitutions were amended to include hunting and fishing as a right. It may take a while for these sentiments to get all the way to the left coast, but the anti-gun zealots were shown the door a few years ago, so there is hope. I am glad to know that you are not included in that group (since you're a gun owner, you couldn't be, could you?).

    "The proportion of slob hunters in this five percent is really high. Like many other hunters, we are fed up with picking up garbage left behind by hunter slobs."

    How high? Actually, I don't think anyone knows, but I do my best to take out more than I brought in, and pick up as much trash as I can. So do all of the folks I hunt with. But one slob can make a big mess. Most of the stuff I bring out was left by fishermen (or women).

    "Hunters have acted outside the law and without public strutiny for far too long."

    And so have animal-rights activists.

    "Washington citizens are tired of paying the state to grow pheasants so you can shoot them."

    Did a survey, did you? How much of this is subsidized by taxpayers?

    "Washington citizens are tired of camoflaged, armed terrorists littering their wetlands and devastating their wildlife."

    And Americans in general are tired of animal-rights thugs terrorizing women wearing fur, assaulting people eating meat, and destroying laboratories conducting medical research. I am still waiting for the condemnation, BTW.

    You're not quite clear above. Is it the cammo that bothers you? What if we wore just green or brown? Is it the guns? Wait, you have guns, so that couldn't be it. I don't blame them for being angry at people who litter, either. Did you pick up all your empty hulls? And devastating their wildlife? Please. Perhaps a little too much Starbucks while you were typing, or intentional hyperbole?

    Best regards,<br />David
     

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