More Success for Antihunters Hunting in Washington State

Discussion in 'Hunters Rights Forum' started by AmiableLabs, Oct 29, 2001.

  1. mallard_murderer

    mallard_murderer Senior Refuge Member

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    I would just like to add my little tid-bit to this. Most of what I am thinking has already been well said already so I'll just keep this short and try not to repeat what has already been said. The key word in last few posts was the word CONSERVATION. Fieldofdreams, do you realize the consequences that would happen if you and your "people" had your wish and hunting everywhere would be outlawed everywhere. Overpopulation my friend. It's the same for deer,ducks,turkey,etc. The populations of these species would rise so high they would actually die very slowly of malnutrition and starvation due to the increase in competition for food and depleting food sources. Also you need to realize the fact that the higher the population of a certain animal species (e.g. ducks) the easier it is for diseases to be spread among that population. You should know that many of the natural habitats for the animals, such as wetlands, are slowly disappearing. Now just think what would happen if hunting were outlawed. Population of ducks increasing at an alarming rate and the eradication of our countries wetlands happening at the same time. Surely you know that 2+2=4, so I'm not going to explain that one to ya. We as the hunters, and conservationists, keep these populations in check while we help preserve the animals natural habitats. This, in turn, makes them healthier animals. Your anti-hunting tactics do nothing but get in the way of us real conservationists. So don't be ranting and raving about how we slaughter innocent animals and call us "murderers" when we are actually helping these animals. So why don't you take your pansy-*** off your soapbox and b!tch about something else because you may think what you are doing is for a good cause but it is not. It's just too bad that you'll never realize that. But anyway, what do I know, I'm just stupid "innocent animal murderer."
     
  2. JP

    JP Elite Refuge Member

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    Their demise will be when the first deranged "golf course" mallard unwittingly flies into their shotgun's pattern and is dispatched..be there with cameras, etc. to document the event and welcome these bloodthirsty "hunters" into the fraternity <img src="smile.gif" border="0">
     
  3. soggy boots

    soggy boots Senior Refuge Member

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    I for one would like to welcome fieldofdreams club members to come and join my club. The membership is free. Heck you even get a paycheck twice month. They seem to have alot of free time on there hands. We are currently engaged in a new event called Taliban hunting. Since they have already displayed there marksmanship we can forgo the formalities and make them Mess Specialists. Just don't forget to put the meat in the stew or the boys are liable to throw your *** in the drink. This is if the field of dreams hunting club isn't opposed to the "unethical" hunting of terrorists and don't think that it is just wasting tax payers money. The invites open. Come on down.
     
  4. Blackduck

    Blackduck Senior Refuge Member

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    I am also an extremist. But at the other end of the scale. Show up in front of my blind in VA(or get your VA friends to), and you'll be swimming home. Laws smaws when it gets down to you doing that.
     
  5. cengel

    cengel Refuge Member

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    FieldofDreams...

    I did indeed make the suggestion that breaking and entering in order to plant sufficient evidence to have your "hunting" license yanked was in order; it was a joke...as usual for an extreme leftist, you are as humorless as you are intellectually dishonest.

    Equating me with terrorism in this day and age is both uncalled for and a dangerous escalation of rhetoric.

    You have stated that your aim is the harassment of hunters. You have a plan for carrying this out. All of theindividual components of that plan is legal, but the end result is the wished for harassment. I urge my fellow "actual" hunters in the jurisdiction in which you are carrying out your campaign to contact the local prosecutorial authorities and use the very words you have used here to obtain an order from a court of competent jurisdiction forcing you to stop this horse****.

    Finally, in my activities as an avid hunter, fisherman, andoutdoorsman, I have invested tens of thousands of dollars in habitat restoration, nesting boxes, hiking trail restoration, and the like. I do more for environmetal and conversation causes in a month than the lot of you have done for these same causes in you lifetimes. You are mere immature, uneducated clowns.

    You are invited to stay the hell away from me while I am hunting, or I will have your asses thrown in the jug.
     
  6. Cajun Duckman

    Cajun Duckman Banned

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    I say they go duck hunting in Afghanistan. I hear it's pretty good this time of year.

    Field of dumbasses: All I have to say is hunters and fishers are the ones who conserve the land and waters for which you guys are whining about. If you want to help save the animals, donate money and time to the causes that promote waterfowl, game animals, and habitat management.

    DU and Delta waterfowl come to mind...
     
  7. billh

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    Tough to take on the Anti's directly. They are like the terrorists, they believe in ther cause so much they will not be swayed-even with cold hard facts. <br />As sportsmen we need to educate the rest of the American public on the good deeds that we are doing or we will loose at the voting booth. Think no anti-leg traps here in California, No mountain lion hunting and the list will get longer.<br />A good place to start is to take a copy of the November 2001 issue of Sports Afield page 40 Article titled "Conservationists or Animal Rightists? by Ted Kerasote. Within this article are some interesting facts:<br />Quote by Heidi Prescott group national director for the Fund for Animals "We put money into litigation". Fund for Animals has a 1,400 acre sanctuary in Texas for rescued animals, elephants chimps, horses and bison.<br />PETA 700,000 members, nominal support to Wildlife Land Trust an affiliate of the Humane Society. WLT works to protect wildlife by preserving land "no hunting trapping or logging. Total aces under protection 7,100 acres.<br />Now for our side, the side we need to get across to the American Public.<br />Ducks Unlimited 1.4 billion raised since 1937, 10 million acres set aside for waterfowl<br />Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation 154 million, 3 million acres<br />National Wild Turkey Foundation 120 million, 2.2 million acres.<br />Pheasants Forever 70 million, 2 million acres<br />Ruffed Grouse Society 7.2 million 450,00 acres<br />Quail Unlimited 6 million, 400,000 acres<br />Trout unlimited 4.94 million, for stream restoration<br />Izaak Walton League of America 75 million<br />The Nature conservancy Which does allow hunting on some of it's properties and to date is not anti-hunting 12 million acres under its stewardship. <br />The above list does not include the state organizations like California Waterfowl Association, Oregon Waterfowl etc. that have preserved and enhanced thousand of acres. How about the thousands of Acres that are duck clubs, hunting camps, ranchs that improve habitat to collect enough money from hunting to squeek by as ranchers<br />Or the self imposed taxes we sportsmaen have imposed to help preserve our sport. in 2000 Pittman Robertson raised 193 million for research and habitat resoration.<br />Take a copy of this article and send it to your local newspaper. Ask them to run it or comment on the basic story line. <br />If you run across an Anti ask him to read it. Who knows if he hasn't been brainwashed yet he might change his view of hunting.<br />Wouldn't hurt to let your local congressman read this also.
     
  8. Dr.Quack

    Dr.Quack Senior Refuge Member

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    All I have to say is that the money that waterfowler's raise goes towards conservation and restoration of land and wildlife. The money that they raise goes towards creating life size Sesame Street characters. Between the boat and the "blind" they must of spent over $1000......that's enough money to sponsor 2 Pot holes.

    Enough said,

    Doc

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  9. Tim P

    Tim P Senior Refuge Member

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    I have seen this story before and am not really interested in "their" agenda. If they paid to shoot legally they have every right to do so. They are paying to use the resource the same as more traditional hunters.

    The fact that they are not shooting anything just puts money toward conservation and doesn't impact the ducks in a negative way. (that many more for me to shoot <img src="tongue.gif" border="0">
     
  10. mallard_murderer

    mallard_murderer Senior Refuge Member

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    Well fellas, I think all this posting we are doing is not going to make a difference anyway. First off, I seriously doubt fieldofdreams is going to make anymore replies back to us because this is part of what they wanted...to get under our skin. I don't think he's got the balls anyway. Second, bhflyfish pretty much hit the nail on the head. They believe in their cause so much and are so set on their ways they do not realize it when they are wrong and we are right. There is no convincing these clowns they are wrong because they are not open-minded about it and will not absorb anything that contradicts what they believe. What we have to do is, as bhflyfish said in the above post, educate the American public about the accomplishments we make in conservation because we are pretty much "beating a dead horse" trying to fight with these extremists. Take your kid, your neighbors kid, and whoever else who might not have much experience the outdoors and show them what we are all about. That little bit can make a big difference. Just my $.02, again.
     

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