More tariffs.

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  1. Bear

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    Americans paying American local taxes and their incomes being spent in American businesses whose employees pay American taxes on their increased income and...etc.

    That's what I was thinking...aren't most American beer companies foreign owned by countries that import aluminum to us?

    Haven't heard Coke...Pepsi or Dr. Pepper complain. But a .02 cent increase on a twelve pack case of cokes kinda doesn't generate economic catastrophe for them.
     
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    I've seen Tequila...Bourbon...Whisky...in plastic "jugs". Not rot gut coffin varnish either. I don't drink Vodka...Gin or Scotch but I don't see why they wouldn't come in plastic too.
     
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    Seen the price of a 12 pack of soda lately ??? I'm sure they have of profit wiggle room there filling cans/bottles with flavored sugar water and they don't even use real sugar anymore :confused:
     
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    Yep...water...caramel...corn syrup and a squirt of peppermint in ~ cost nothing a can. They'll survive. It'll be rough...but they'll survive.
     
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    But you have to know that and the applications well AND hope they are truthful in the specs they SAID they gave you......... personal experience..... Not good when your pipes containing highly hazardous chemicals start cracking because the alloy mix was wrong or the heat treatment wasn't done correctly.....
     
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    When I worked at a steel mill, we tried one run of Chinese steel. It couldn’t pass the pressure test for the steel tubing we made. The run was for 6”OD quarter inch thick tube. It was awful. But for applications such as say, cheap metal furniture, it works fine.
     
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    @3inch3's; how close are you to Pekin, IL?
     
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    Some buyer got a deal as part of project and built 2 acid processes using their 316L..... not even close. First round of inspections (5 year) found cracking and wall loss where the same process right next to it with the same materials made in US had been running for over 20 years with 0 issues. Fun investigation to lead when the buyer and plant manager started going at it....
     
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    When you research this Ron look at how much we actually import from China. It is wat down the list. Canada, Europe and Mexico is where the steel comes from. They play by the rules. If Trump wants to go after China’s trade practices he needs these counties as allies. But instead he is alienating them. So even if you believe tariffs are good, Trump is going about it all wrong.
     
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    Works fine except for the crap they are alleged to have disposed with in some of their materials sold over here.

    Link later...maybe.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_drywall


    "Chinese drywall" refers to an environmental health issue involving defective drywall manufactured in China, imported to the United States and used in residential construction between 2001 and 2009 — affecting "an estimated 100,000 homes in more than 20 states."[1]

    In samples of contaminated drywall, laboratory tests will detect off-gassing of volatile chemicals and sulfurous gases — including carbon disulfide, carbonyl sulfide, and hydrogen sulfide. The emissions worsen as temperature and humidity rise, will give off a sulfuric (rotten egg) odor and will cause copper surfaces to turn black and powdery, a chemical process indicative of a hydrogen sulfide reaction and an early indication of contaminated drywall. Copper pipes, electrical wiring, and air conditioner coils are affected, as well as silver jewelry.

    Homeowners have reported health symptoms including respiratory problems such as asthma attacks, chronic coughing and difficulty breathing, as well as chronic headaches and sinus issues.[2][3][4]
     
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