old 16ga

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  1. goose pit

    goose pit Elite Refuge Member

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    I would like to take my grandpa's old Springfield side by side out duck hunting. I am wondering what non-toxic loads I could shoot through it. I have looked at the Hevi-shot classic doubles but havnt seen very good reviews on it. So what would be some other options? Any help would be awesome! Thanks in advance.:tu
     
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    Tuleman Elite Refuge Member

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    Probably Kent Bismuth.
     
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    Hoooold on! A lot of those old 16s had 2 9/16 chambering. Check that before you try to shoot it.
     
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    Billy Bob Elite Refuge Member

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    I have heard that some of those older guns can't handle the pressures of modern ammo. 10GAGENUT would know more about that.
     
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    Get checked thruogh a smith, for chamber length and see if it has proofs for smokless powder.
    MIGHT be blackpowder only.

    If BP then consider getting pound of Bimuth shote thruogh ROTOmetlas, Inc.., about $18 +S&H and reload sheel with BP and bismuth???

    Good Luck.
     
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    ALMODUX Elite Refuge Member

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    If it’s a hammerless marked Springfield, and shows no Damascus, it’s probably their version of the pre-311 savage, and it’ll be smokeless safe and 2 3/4”. However, it may have internal hammer issues that can cause fire on closing and recoil doubles....which seem to be 50/50. I inherited one of the 12s this way. Almost cost me a foot or two as a kid, and at least one broken finger and bloody nose.
     
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    As was stated it depends on model and age, usually Springfield and Savage were pretty good about marking chamber length on their guns and most will say for 2 3/4 " shells if it chambered for them, if is says Nitro Proofed then you should be good to go with the Kent Bismuth shells.
    I e-mailed Kent a while back and those shells are running modern pressures, so if it's a real old SxS then you may want to take it easy with them, again if it depends on age of the gun and what model.
     
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    goose pit Elite Refuge Member

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    After asking my dad he thinks the gun is either a 45 or a 46. The barrel says "Proof Tested" and "Select Forged Steel" would i be good to go?
     
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    If it says proof tested then it was test to withstand smokeless powder. However, this comes with a caveat. It does not mean you can shoot some of the high pressure/high speed loadings that are available now. Also, any non-toxic shot that will not compress(like steel) will damage your gun. I think Bismuth in a standard loading should be fine, but consult a gunsmith to make sure. I own a Springfield SxS, it put many a duck down in the water with their feet up when I was young in the lead shot days. But it has not been duck hunting since the mandating of steel.
     

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