Prs. Trump pardons ranchers/the Hammonds

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  1. double limit

    double limit Elite Refuge Member

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    Good for him. More heads will be exploding from the left.

    President Trump on Tuesday pardoned the father and son ranchers from Oregon whose imprisonment for setting fires on federal land sparked a 41-day takeover of a wildlife refuge in the state.

    Trump signed the order granting clemency to 76-year-old Dwight Hammond and his son, Steven Hammond, 49, who were convicted of arson in 2012 for fires that burned on federal land in 2001 and 2006.

    Though they served their original sentences for the conviction -- Dwight serving three months, Steven serving one year -- an appellate judge ruled in 2015 that the terms were too short under federal minimum sentencing laws and the Hammonds were resentenced to serve the mandatory minimum. This decision led to the 2016 protests.

    “The Hammonds are multi-generation cattle ranchers in Oregon imprisoned in connection with a fire that leaked onto a small portion of neighboring public grazing land,” the White House said in a statement. “The evidence at trial regarding the Hammonds’ responsibility for the fire was conflicting, and the jury acquitted them on most of the charges.”

    The statement added: “Justice is overdue for Dwight and Steven Hammond, both of whom are entirely deserving of these Grants of Executive Clemency.”

    Dwight has so far served about three years in prison and Steven has served about four years. They have also paid $400,000 to the United States to settle a related civil suit.


    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...-led-to-armed-occupation-wildlife-refuge.html
     
  2. hartfish

    hartfish Elite Refuge Member

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    So Trump pardoned a couple of thugs.
    Ya think the faithful here would be happy if Obama posthumously pardoned Michael Brown or somehow exonerated him? Me neither.
     
  3. double limit

    double limit Elite Refuge Member

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    If Brown served his term and then some idiot Judge added time for no good reason I would be Ok with Obama exonerating him.
     
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    Possibly freeing up some space in federal prison to accomodate Obama, Hillary and the whole DNC? Win/win
     
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    hartfish Elite Refuge Member

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    Not only are you defending a couple of thugs, you are defending "alleged" poachers. Cool...

    2001 Hardie-Hammond fire began after hunters in the area witnessed the Hammonds illegally slaughtering a herd of deer.[19] Less than two hours later, a fire erupted, forcing the hunters to leave the area but also intending to conceal evidence of the deer herd slaughter.
     
  6. KENNEDY63

    KENNEDY63 Elite Refuge Member

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    You obviously nailed it....:l:l:l
     
  7. stevena198301

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    That is whack. I also think they should serve their minimum, but it should have been handed down originally. Why wasn’t it?
     
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    Who’s ‘defending’ what here? Seems you’re just overly upset that some double sentencing for some dead (“slaughtered”) deer (“herd”) and some fall burn wasn’t upheld. Where’s the outrage over the likely thousands of wrist slaps for pedophilia, rape, DUI murders, etc that occur every year? Where was your outrage over Obama’s nearly 2k pardons to mostly drug dealers, gun runners, and thieves?

    Who are the victims you’re speaking out for here? What victims are everyone else not ‘defending’?


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_granted_executive_clemency_by_Barack_Obama
     
  9. stevena198301

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    IIRC, it was also said he threatened some folks. Extortion, maybe(?). It would seem they tried to exploit a loophole, and got snagged legally, down the road. The guy may be stand up to his neighbors, but it seems to me he sees greys in the law. The more I read up on him, the more it seems he may not be that good of a guy, ethically, and possibly morally.
     
  10. lamsen95240

    lamsen95240 Senior Refuge Member

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    Thugs? you need to do a little more research
     

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