A very lively discussion we've got going here. I must say I don't hunt public SWA. I hunt private (a lease), but I will say to me hunting is not about the killing. To me it is about being out and watching the birds work your spread. No matter how large or small it is. That's the fun for me. If it comes down to me having to take shots of 40 yards or longer to get birds I will go home empty handed. It is that thrill of fooling the birds and shooting them right over the dekes at 10-15 yards that does it for me. Skybusting is bad for us all. First it educates the birds. Second it gives us a bad image because some of those birds that are skybusted get hit only to fly off and die later be it the city park or wherever. Most of the time the skybuster is the guy who only gets out a few times a year and has no clue at judging distances. I agree with Waterproof about the 25 shell limit on SWAs. That sounds like a great idea. Hey, if you can't get get a limit in 25 shells you better go to the range and practice some more. If someone gets up earlier than you and beats you to a spot on public land that's the way it goes. Sounds like need to get up earlier. Sorry, but's that the life of hunting SWAs it seems. Also if someone has the resources to buy $10,000 worth of gear to hunt waterfowl....good for them. But don't bad mouth them because they got up earlier than you and have more gear then you do. Lastly I totally disagree with those that say it is a passion.....IT IS AN OBSESSION!