Register your Guns, Go to Jail

Discussion in 'The Duck Hunters Forum' started by AvianQuest, Jun 4, 2018.

  1. AvianQuest

    AvianQuest Elite Refuge Member Flyway Manager

    Messages:
    24,417
    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2000
    Location:
    Cypress, Texas, USA
    California Farmer Charged With 12 Felonies After Trying To Register His Guns

    Bakersfield, CA – A member of a prominent farming family was charged with a dozen weapons-related felonies, after he attempted to comply with California’s state-mandated gun registration laws.

    According to court documents, Jeffrey Scott Kirschenmann’s home was raided in April, after he attempted to register an AR-15 using the state of California’s website, KGET reported.

    Kirschenmann is the CEO of Scott Kirschenmann Farms, Inc., which is one of the chief potato suppliers for Frito Lay.

    The businessman was attempting to comply with California’s ever-tightening gun laws, one of which required gun owners to register “assault-style weapons” by the end of June.

    He electronically submitted photographs of his AR-15 as part of the registration process, and soon became the focus of a California Department of Justice investigation.

    According to court documents, the weapon was “illegally modified,” and served as grounds for the Department of Justice (DoJ) to raid Kirschenmann’s home.

    It's not immediately clear what the illegal modification was, but the rifle was presumably not in compliance with the recent bans

    Investigators seized two “silencers,” 230 rounds of ammunition, and 12 firearms in the search, KGET reported.

    On May 17, the district attorney’s office charged Kirschenmann with a dozen felony weapons-related charges.

    He was subsequently released on $150,000 bond.

    According to retired Kern County Sheriff’s Office Commander Joe Pilkington, a court-recognized firearms expert, California’s rapidly-changing gun laws have created a significant amount of confusion with regards to what requirements are currently mandated, KGET reported.

    "Just in the last few years, there have been lots of changes in gun laws," Commander Pilkington explained. "Making an effort, a good faith effort to comply with these really complicated laws, should count for something."

    He suggested that anyone who was struggling to understand the current requirements should meet with a licensed firearms dealer.

    "There is this self-registration application on the Department of Justice website, but it may be better to talk to an FFL,” Commander Pilkington said. “Someone who has a license, to talk through whatever these complications are."

    https://www.themaven.net/bluelivesm...-to-register-his-guns-KaYA9xPcY0eSpeNnNm6PCw/
     
  2. JuvieCoot

    JuvieCoot Elite Refuge Member

    Messages:
    7,421
    Joined:
    May 31, 2013
    Location:
    Surrounded by nuts
    7011A113-D2F2-4A17-942C-FAFF360F209B.jpeg
     
    JP, WHUP ! Hen, Squaller and 3 others like this.
  3. stevena198301

    stevena198301 Elite Refuge Member Supporting Member

    Messages:
    13,115
    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2015
    Location:
    HSV, Alabama
    That’s sad.
     
    Duck_Hunter_TX likes this.
  4. theduckguru

    theduckguru Elite Refuge Member

    Messages:
    2,647
    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2003
    Location:
    ohio
    So he had suppressors and is a victim? Not hardly.
     
    Last edited: Jun 4, 2018
  5. Mean Gene

    Mean Gene Moderator Moderator Flyway Manager

    Messages:
    20,717
    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2000
    Location:
    NE South Dakota
    You ain't seen nothing yet. When Newsom becomes governor this will seem like the good old days.
     
    CanardNoir, jliffrig and Squaller like this.
  6. tcc

    tcc Elite Refuge Member

    Messages:
    8,132
    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2006
    Location:
    Louisiana
    Suppressors are perfectly legal in many cases if obtained correctly. Of course maybe not in commiefornia.
     
    Last edited: Jun 5, 2018
    Dean Nelson likes this.
  7. JuvieCoot

    JuvieCoot Elite Refuge Member

    Messages:
    7,421
    Joined:
    May 31, 2013
    Location:
    Surrounded by nuts
    Go fly a kite
     
    Dean Nelson, widgeon and tcc like this.
  8. Steelshot Scott

    Steelshot Scott Senior Refuge Member

    Messages:
    258
    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2012
    Location:
    NC
    Suppressors are legal when you purchase the Tax Stamp to own them. They are considered"AOWs" (Any Other Weapon)by the ATF and are legal to own if you undergo the process to obtain the $200 tax stamp and undergo the background check and then register it with the ATF.

    Anyone not horrified by this is not paying attention to what it means to law abiding citizens. These laws that require you to register individual guns, give up your address and even submit pictures of the guns are giving the gov't the tools they need to confiscate them.
     
  9. Damian Wiening

    Damian Wiening Elite Refuge Member

    Messages:
    2,283
    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2002
    Location:
    Hammond, IN.
    You know very little about firearm law, suppressors are an over the counter purchase in some countries.

    Just for fun which of the following examples is an easy over the counter pistol purchase ??
    No goolge search allowed now.

    Example A


    [​IMG]

    Example B

    [​IMG]
     
  10. markd

    markd Elite Refuge Member

    Messages:
    4,287
    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2003
    Location:
    Leesburg, Virginia
    Damian, you have frightened me with your gun pictures. I need to go to a safe space immediately. I wonder if theduckguru has room for me in his what with all his bands and stuff.....
     

Share This Page