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  1. Tuleman

    Tuleman Elite Refuge Member

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    I suppose it depends on what you mean by "backed up".
    If it means you are putting together a duplex load of #2 and #5 steel, then it's possible (even though doubtful that any load shot through an IM choke is effective at 50 yards).
    If it means that your second (and third) shot are #5 steel, they will not be effective by any definition at 50 yards, no matter what the choke.
    That's my opinion.
     
  2. baltz526

    baltz526 Senior Refuge Member

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    This is a 50 yard IM pattern from a 1550fps 1 1/8oz load of copper plated B.
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  3. Tuleman

    Tuleman Elite Refuge Member

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    While that is a marginal pattern at best, baltz, it's far better than I would have expected. Well done.
     
  4. Ravenanme

    Ravenanme Elite Refuge Member

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    My patterns of the same payload in the Clear Cheddite hull with 32 grs of Asteel .....are the hammer on Spec's !
    It's interesting how effective they are out of my .703 Fixed Choked 30" Wingmaster ?
     
  5. JFG

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    50 yard 5’s? Better be jacked up to the hilt in speed, and then pot luck. 50 yard B’s? Energy is there with nominal speed ...no problem.
     
  6. Northhunter

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    Ringers, mostly. Smaller birds.

    30% 5's under 70% 3's. 1 1/8oz. They run around 1550. I patterned them @ 45 when I worked it up. A true 50 could be a little generous, but I'm pretty good with distance and they certainly have reach. I believe the 5's maintain velocity better in this configuration. The load certainly performs better and has greater reach than a 13/16oz load of straight 3's. The 5's help keep the pattern dense and certainly play a role once you get "out there". I worked up the load to help with clean-up, and water swatting swimmers. Been shooting it for quite some time (maybe 15 years?). I have enough experience with it to know what it does, regardless of what a formula says the 5's are capable of.
     
  7. baltz526

    baltz526 Senior Refuge Member

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    Its 80% which is pretty good for a 12ga load at 50yd
     
  8. Tuleman

    Tuleman Elite Refuge Member

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    While 80% at that distance is damn good, pattern percentage is only one part of the equation...and the least important one at that. Pattern uniformity is the critical part, and a pattern with large areas of thin-to-no coverage can often result in birds getting hit with one or two shot, then flying away to die a couple of days later.
     
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    X2 pretty patterns kill birds
     
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    With the loads I shoot the patterns do get on the thin side at 50 but it's better than the patterns shot by fellas who don't pattern their load , I believe !
    From what I have experienced shooting patterns , if I put it on the bird , it will get hit with at least 2 or more pellets and I've found it put them on the
    ground for my dog to fetch-up for me . I do know , when you start out with a 80 plus percentage pattern , it doesn't end up that way at 50 yds !
     

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