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Discussion in 'Snow Goose Hunting Forum' started by Specgod, Mar 15, 2005.

  1. Specgod

    Specgod Elite Refuge Member

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    What do yall get out of sneaking and ground raking all those geese. I think it is just bragging rights. If yall would just hunt the geese like your supposed by decoying or even pass shooting it would be much more of a sport. Yall are ruining the snow goose "Hunting" reputation. Just think of all the nesting birds that yall wiped out that would have produced 3 times as many for next season that we could decoy and enjoy hunting more.

    Thanks for giving Snow goose hunting a bad name. :clap :clap


    Congratulations...i idol someone that can sneak up on geese and kill 100's :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :fp
     
  2. TWEET SD

    TWEET SD Elite Refuge Member

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    the snow goose population is exploding and even by people performing sneaks you will still have plenty of snows to decoy next season. sometimes sneaking is the only way to shoot the birds. the geese fly around in such big groups decoying can be near impossible. sneaking isn't just a walk in the park either. I've done a few sneaks this season and haven't even shot more than 10 birds total (I've shot one decoying). It's tough to do with so many eyes watching you and also so many hunters around doing the same thing. Sneaking is legal for a reason but still not everyone agrees with it. If you don't agree with it, don't do it. But I don't have the money to buy enough decoys (just yet) to do the trick and I love the sneak. Something about low crawling on my stomach 300 yards over the course of at least an hour, trying not to be detected by 20,000 eyes get me excited. I think that it's still a valid form of hunting. I've never shot more than 5 geese on a sneak and I doubt I'll ever shoot 100 on one but I know some people do. Don't give yourself so much credit for bashing other people's valid/legal hunting methods. It's still hunting and I still love it.
     
  3. AL-IA

    AL-IA Senior Refuge Member

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    The Spring snow goose conservation Order is in place to reduce the snow geese population, wheter that be by sneaking, decoying, or ect.. The intent is all the same..."Kill geese".. and save the Artic Tundra..AL-IA
     
  4. Gadwidge

    Gadwidge Elite Refuge Member

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    well look at it this way. what is worse having people sneak geese to reduce population or eventualy if the population gets out of control have people go around on their nesting grouds smashing their eggs and wasting meat. id take people sneaking over that.
     
  5. GVGoose

    GVGoose Elite Refuge Member

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    Sorry to break it to you but we wouldn't have a conservation order if the population wasn't so high. So you should be thankful that you get to hunt them anyway. And why does it matter how we kill them? I actually think the more the better for snows. I'd rather see hunters kill them and have fun doing it and make memories rather than having the snow geese kill themselves from over population. Why do you want more snow geese? If there's more they might go to drastic measures to reduce the population and i don't think that we want that. If you don't agree with sneaking and killing huge piles of birds, then I would rethink about the situation. Would you rather have the hunters take care of the population or would you rather have them kill themselves and all that meat and everything else go to waste? Then if they killed themselves we'd never ever be able to hunt them. You make your own call :tu
     
  6. Green Head Down

    Green Head Down Senior Refuge Member

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    why are rich people so ignorant. They are the only one who are the only ones who are right. Rich people that can amass a 500 decoy spread good for them. I know alot of people who sneak and only sneak because of money, and only a few that will only decoy. may be if they did not have all the money in the world to spend on decoy they could think that other people can be right.
     
  7. Specgod

    Specgod Elite Refuge Member

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    I didn't know there was such a problem with the population. :confused:
     
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    goose_caller Elite Refuge Member

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    Looks like another case of someone posting up about something they know little about. Got to love the net, everyone is a expert.
     
  9. tbratch

    tbratch Elite Refuge Member<br>aka Treebranch<br><br><img

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    hence, the "conservation season"

    I do both. I'd rather kill birds over decoys, but on windless days or if I'm hunting alone, I'll sneak em if I have to. It does take alot of money for a decent spread. I've slowly built up my spread over the laast 5 years. Until last year, I didn't have much luck. I've finally hit the "magical 500+" decoy number. I believe (where I hunt) that is the minimum number to kill birds within 60 yards. The exception is the roost, but I don't hunt the roost. I pass shoot birds over 100 rags before, but it is tough. Every once in a while you can kill birds over less than 100 decoys. if the conditions are perect and you are on the "x". I'm no expert, just a guy trying to figure it out one trip at a time.

    But obviously there is a population problem for the federal government to mandate such a season in addition to the normal seasons. I've never looked hard at the numbers, but I doubt my little hunts are making much of a dent in the population. Sneaking and killing 300-1000 birds in a weekend is more effective to control the population. I still doubt that more than 5% of the population is harvested in the conservation season, but every little bit helps.
     
  10. Specgod

    Specgod Elite Refuge Member

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    It's just hard to believe that crap is actully doing any good. It definitly hurt the hunting. The hunting has gone down every year since they started the conservation season. We killed more geese before, decoying only, than now with the conservation season. Helping the snowgeese maybe, but killing the hunting industry for sure. :yes
     

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