I am still running 18 reflocked GHG specks (about 9 years old) and dozen painted new style GHG specks. Usually run a few dozen full body snows as well and usually we do okay. I posted a couple pictures up on the specks and snows thread on here. I like looks of the Avian, might buy some DSDs for next year but I put them out in groups of 5-7 through out the spread. CA specks with a limit of up to 10 per hunter are hunted hard for 100 day season, so you have to be on your game and that is after been hunted from Canada down.