On your dime by the way. I agree with you on this issue, believe me. I think there is a whole lot of abuse under the concept of subsistence. Most of us have other means to get food. We have jobs, earn money, and have a local safeway, AC store or what ever. I would have to say that the chances of completey getting rid of the spring harvest up here is about zero. So, the biggest chance we have is restricting the harvest to those that need it. I know a few people who got the mailers but do not participate in the hunt out of their own personal feelings towards this spring season. In fact the story I mentioned above about Tanana. A bunch of guys drove up in pickups to show us their piles of geese. These guys were both native and non native by the way. I am just guessing, but I bet the six of them had at least 150 geese piled in there (mostly canada's and specks). They then invited me and some of the others on the crew to go back out and "slaughter" some more (in their words). We of course, declined the invitation and they went on into the AC hardware and got a hot dog and chips. The trucks stayed parked there for 2 days, and then I left Tanana. I have no clue how long they actually stayed there. I'm really not against subsistence harvest, I'm disgusted at the abuse that goes under the sake of subsistence harvest. It comes down to pure greed. I can do it, you cant so you must be jealous is the attitude that I seem to pick up.