The failing of American Journalism

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  1. blood of the ram

    blood of the ram Elite Refuge Member

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    Because the people that trust them don't know what fools they are?

    Look, I'm on mobile but I don't have a link, but do some googling and you will learn that not only are habitual fax viewers poorly informed, they actually even know less about current events then people that don't watch ANY news.
     
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  2. pintail2222

    pintail2222 Elite Refuge Member

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    This one?

    According to the researchers - Fox News Does Not Make You Dumb:

    Does Fox News make you dumb? No, but that was the headline generated by news aggregators re-reporting research by Fairleigh Dickinson University's PublicMind.


    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/peter-j-woolley/fox-news-does-not-make-yo_b_1519284.html?view=print

    The study, though, didn’t actually identify people who got their news only from one source, so they used “multinomial logistic regression” to create representations of such people who were then compared “to a hypothetical construct of someone who had no recent news exposure.”

    Dan Cassino, one of the professors of political science at FDU who authored the two studies, acknowledged a hailstorm of criticism (he wrote about it for The Huffington Post) after the first study was released, and he told The Hollywood Reporter it was regrettable so many bloggers focused on the low results of FNC but ignored almost equally low results for MSNBC.

    “It was sensationalized – and that’s the dominant bias in the media, sensationalism," he said. "MSNBC was second worst, but it wasn’t talked about."

    The first study also came under fire for asking questions where the correct answers may have been ambiguous, and Cassino acknowledged that that may have been the case for one question, though not others.
     
  3. DennyB

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    Who was it that said keep saying something long enough, it becomes the truth?

     
  4. CPLZ

    CPLZ Senior Refuge Member

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    This statement is absolute truth.


    And that's the difference between Fox and other mainstream news outlets. They seek different audiences. Fox is very specific in who it is trying to attract to its viewership and caters its output to attract and solidify that audience. Other networks cater to the sensational without regard for dogma, only trying to outdo the others like a carny barker. In the end, it's about revenue instead of news...and that's what changed.

    There used to be a separation between editorial and publishing, church and state style. Now there is compliance, sort of the way police are now used as a revenue source for government.

    This is the reason that Fox is viewed as skewing it's slant more to its audience...because it does. The other outlets just skew only to the point to create a more sensationalized product, regardless of leaning.
     
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  5. hartfish

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    Baloney. MSM outlets are liberal not because they are trying to create a sensationalized product. They are skewed left because of the ideology of the staff. Very much like academia.

    The editors (and many of the reporters) of the NYT and WaPo are liberals and tend to favor reporters who include a leftist slant in their reporting and a slant in the way they present a story. The Huffington Post does not appear to have a single conservative or libertarian on their staff.

    There is clearly an effort to "report" with a slant that is favorable to the groupthink that defines liberalism by much of the MSM.
     
  6. Steve Borgwald

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    It's fashionable. From Obama, Holder, et al to some 'Fuge members.
     
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    And yet I see Ed Henry just about every day asking Josh Earnest questions as a member of the WH press corps.
     
  8. pintail2222

    pintail2222 Elite Refuge Member

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    That statement is in regards to the reporting of the study that blood of the ram was referring to in thread #21.

    The reporting of the research by Fairleigh Dickinson University's PublicMind was sensationalized – and that’s the dominant bias in the media, sensationalism. And that's why so many like blood of the ram lap it up - they love sensationalism. And had he not been on his mobile - he'd have linked his sensationalized story.
     
  9. CPLZ

    CPLZ Senior Refuge Member

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    One is not exclusive of the other. I never claimed MSM didn't lean liberal, only that it's not their primary goal. While Fox's primary goal is to lean right, because it is much more selective of who it wants for a demographic from which to sell to advertisers. I do believe MSM generally lean less left than conservatives portray it however, and having been around a number of journalists and editors over the years, I'd say your comment regarding their hiring practices are mostly false. I don't think they target the political ideology of the prospect as much as the type of prospect that wants to write a "City Beat" column is more likely to have liberal tendencies.
     
  10. hartfish

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    That is a more reasonable explanation.
     

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