The liberals are really pushing hard on the gun control now.

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  1. eel river

    eel river Elite Refuge Member

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    But Bear, anyone who is a good shot and proficient with their firearm surely doesn't need more then one shot to kill a deer! Their are going to try to take the semi.
     
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    Because they incorrectly believe suppressors are silencers.

    I believe that many of them are the same ones who wanted to ban high capacity "clips"...
     
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    The AWB worked so well last time......
     
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    Its interesting that the knee jerk reaction from the left early on was that the victims were a bunch of country music loving Republicans... So it's hard to believe by their POV the shooter was a Trumpthumper.

    In don't believe it was politically motivated. He was a mental nut job.
     
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    I'll play devil's advocate. Let's see what happened in Australia after the Port Arthur massacre. Semi-automatic and pump firearms were banned and bought by the crown at fair market value, then destroyed. Hunters can still use double guns, and bolt action firearms with fixed magazines. What happened to the crime levels after that? Since 1997, the statistics are pretty impressive. Following the National Agreement on Firearms, the number of deaths by firearms in Australia, initially declined slowly. Overall homicides immediately after saw a decrease of less than one per 100,000 persons. Over the medium term homicide by firearm dropped from 1/200,000 to 1/670,000. Between 2010-2014, gun related homicides across all of Australia had dropped to 30-40 per year. Firearms in 2014 were used in less than 15% of homicides, less than 0.1% of sexual assaults, less than 6% of kidnapping/abductions and 8% of robberies. Since the 1996 legislation the risk of dying by gunshots was reduced by 50% in the following years and stayed on that lower level since then.The rate of gun related suicide was greatly reduced as well. In 2010, a study reported a 59% decrease in firearm homicides in Australia between 1995 and 2006 (0.37 per 100,000 people in 1995 to 0.15 per 100,000 people in 2006). They also reported that the non-firearm homicides fell by the same rate. The decreasing rate for homicide with a firearm was a continuation of a pre-existing decline prior to the 1996 reforms, and several analyses of these trends have been conducted and claimed that the reforms have had a statistically insignificant effect on homicide rates with a firearm .

    There may not have had a huge influence on the rates, but the chances of having a mass shooting really decreases when you are using an over/under shotgun, or a fixed 5 shot magazine rifle.

    The least you could do is get rid of the high rate of fire bump stocks and trigger attachments.
     
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    We can get rid of them and ban them - and criminals will machine them.

    Did you know we banned cocaine and heroin - and yet for some strange reason criminals still have it...

    Hey - how'd that "gun ban" in Australia work out? Say what? Criminals are now better armed than ever before? Why who'd a thunk it?

    Despite Australia’s strict gun control regime, criminals are now better armed than at any time since then-Prime Minister John Howard introduced a nationwide firearm buyback scheme in response to the 1996 Port Arthur massacre. Shootings have become almost a weekly occurrence, with more than 125 people, mostly young men, wounded in the past five years.
     
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    89 people died at the bataclan with a complete gun ban in place.
     
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    But it made them all feel safe when they passed the gun ban... :doh
     
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    Good luck when some nutjob shows up at a football stadium or a NASCAR event with one of these. He'll get the record in about 10 seconds.
     

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