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Discussion in 'Gun Dog Forum' started by Hogleg, Jan 29, 2017.
Why no marks?
The one time we tried she would not come to me with the bumper, but would try to hide with it.
And that was because of a couple things --- what are they ?
Bugging - pressure avoidance
During marks? What pressure was there?
Any other ideas yet ?
Sorry, been on the road. No pressure during the marks.
Don't know the answer.
With young retrievers pressure is a perception which may not be from the trainer's perspective. Whenever the behavior of
a pup is not productive it is simple to assume something is out of balance. Experience is useful but not always "there".
Which means finding a way to get the pup back in balance. Pro trainer Julie Knutson came up with a good description of
balance. It consists of five factors - birdiness, retrieving, focus, control and responsiveness. Add to those Hillmann's primary
component that everything needs to be driven by fun and balance becomes more attainable. So the answer is based on
how well you work at having fun in balancing the factors.
For example, if all you are doing is FF.......the pup is likely to be out of balance. AND he is not likely to think you are all that
much fun to be with (or do things for). Responsiveness is a two-way street. Be creative and make some "stuff" fun. No fun
means everything is work which is not the way to start a pup. Learning to work and liking it is a process.
With Hillmann's program everything is done as a rewarding game (including FF). The fact is any program is fun for a pup if
the trainer does what the pup needs with balance in mind. And you do need to "know the answer". No one on here can see
you and the pup interact. This makes providing solutions rather hapless without actually having a true perspective. Make a list of
the things you do that fit into "birdiness, retrieving, focus, control and responsiveness". Are you "matching up" and doing all
of those in an exciting, fun manner? Your pup needs you to do just that.
Let me hazard a couple of possibilities as to why your dog did what it did.
1. You haven't completed FF, so you had no way of making a correction
2. The "HERE" command has not been instilled.
Also, read Kwick's post (2 or 3 times). Do something fun after the FF session. Go for a walk in a field and let the pup do some exploring, or whatever you can come up with (no retrieves) that are fun for the dog.