Trump helping veterans

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  1. chuam

    chuam Elite Refuge Member

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    VA cuts program for homeless vets after touting Trump's commitment

    Four days after Veterans Affairs Secretary David Shulkin held a big Washington event to tout the Trump administration’s promise to house all homeless vets, the agency did an about-face, telling advocates it was pulling resources from a major housing program.
     
  2. yellowlab03

    yellowlab03 Elite Refuge Member

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    Chuam, don't pretend to care about us.

    If there are homeless vets, it's because they choose to live that way. There are more gov't and non profits out there to help veterans that if a vet says they can't get help they are full of it.


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  3. API

    API PAF-CA Flyway Moderator Flyway Manager

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    Nothing is absolute, but if one seriously studied the homeless vet phenomena, bet that the vast majority of occurrences are because of choices intentionally made.
    ...and the construction of new facilities and renovation of existing living places is on going. For example, just one program is: https://www.usvetsinc.org/

    On the one hand reaching out is good, but success does require reciprocation on the receiving end.
     
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    Yes, but if we just throw more money at it, those homeless vets will change their mind.

    Chuam - if it really is that big of a deal - get a few thousand of your closest friends, open your wallets, and fund the agency. Problem solved.
     
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    But Trump said........
     
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    From the article:

    1. The VA said it was essentially ending a special $460 million program that has dramatically reduced homelessness among chronically sick and vulnerable veterans. Instead, the money would go to local VA hospitals that can use it as they like, as long as they show evidence of dealing with homelessness.

    So in other words - the same amount of money, spent locally.

    2. The VA said it was essentially ending a special $460 million program that has dramatically reduced homelessness among chronically sick and vulnerable veterans. Instead, the money would go to local VA hospitals that can use it as they like, as long as they show evidence of dealing with homelessness.

    3. They can easily lose their housing again and need VA case managers to mediate with landlords, pay bills, and help them access the agency’s services and jobs, said Matt Leslie, who runs the housing program for the Virginia Department of Veterans Services.

    “The people in this program are the most vulnerable individuals,” Leslie said. “If someone’s going to die on the streets, they are the ones.”

    So - a guy whose paycheck comes from these funds says that they should keep coming - instead of being reallocated and administered by others. K.

    4. Agency spokesman Curtis Cashour said the move gives VA medical centers more flexibility. “VA has a responsibility to ensure resources go where they best align with veterans’ needs,” he said. “This move gives control and management of resources to local VA facilities, [which] know their communities and the veterans they serve better than anyone else.”

    5. When asked about the administration’s budget, which includes no additional vouchers for the hard-case veterans, Carson said HUD had “excess vouchers. When we use those, we’ll look for more,” he said.

    “The old paradigm of dumping money on problems doesn’t work,” Carson added.
     
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    I was hoping that he said "Hey, if all of you naysayers would only open your home and let a homeless vet live in your spare bedroom, we could solve this problem." But it is always easier with an unlimited supply of someone else's money.

    But in the mean time, while Trump, Carson, DeVos, etc etc continue to upend Washington's business as usual - you'se guys keep on sniping from the outside looking in.
     
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    I just heard on the radio this morning that homeless vet rates in my area have dropped by 20% since last year.
     
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    From the linked article...
    Who has an example of solving problems by perpetually pumping money. Problem solving involves ownership and resolve to improve. What’s the motivation realize improvement when the current circumstances don’t require it?
     
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    That is a very, very incorrect statement. I'm pretty darn surprised you even posted it. Hey, take a walk around and talk to some of the homeless vets and ask them why they are living like they are.
     

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