It's a bit disingenuous to suggest that we are overloading the shells. I'm actually putting 20% less payload into a shell than it was designed for to compensate for some of the concerns you list. All of them are serious, but I'd rather run a lite fast shell than a heavy high pressure one. No where do we suggest that payloads can/should be run up. In fact, we point out, given the tendency of HD payloads to pattern tighter, that you can run LIGHTER LOADS and take advantage of the consequent safety. Kyle even found that 3/4oz loads patterned very close to 1-1/4oz loads... Anytime that someone is using different components than have been pressure tested, the load SHOULD be run thru a pressure gun. In practice, few are. Wads are used interchangably; buffers are interchanged; hulls are interchanged, primers are interchanged. NONE of these SHOULD be substituted, but all are on a daily basis. Studying this venue (reloading shotshells) is critical to determining which substitutions are 'safe' and which ones aren't. It's kinda like crossing a street, i.e. it's never going to be perfectly safe, so eventually, you just step into the street after you believe you have done a reasonable job of reducing the risk to a manageable level. I think we are there. You do not. It's a personal decision and I must admit that I've been accused of crossing some very busy streets rather casually... When I started this thread, I wanted to show that HD pellets can be used without needing a press, i.e. roll crimping (a GREAT pressure reducer, BTW!!) I would not have written about it if it had a big likelihood of causing problems (i.e. changing the primer/pwder combo, the hull capacity, increasing payload, etc.) Going to a reduced payload in a wad/primer/powder load that HAS been tested is not likely to be a big risk. BUT, like crossing a street, it's wise to look both ways before you step out. If one wants to spend the $100 having a load pressure tested, I will even furnish a couple of shells for the test (that way I KNOW they were properly compiled) Any offers???