Hmmm NV Ducker...I'll not be giving heat. They look surprisingly like an old 'Redwing' model I wore back in college...and another pair just after that Browning marketed. Started to make a little money and figured I just HAD to upgrade. I like them when I wore them. The reviews seem to be VERY positive. If my current Danner's weren't in pretty fair shape yet, I drop the $$ on a pair. Cannot beat the price.