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Discussion in 'Alaska Flyway Forum' started by akjack, Jul 24, 2007.

  1. Jake Windemere

    Jake Windemere Senior Refuge Member

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    AK Duckman and Akquackerwhacker,

    What would you do if you found out that someone entered the marsh in the dark, found your decoys unattended, piled them up on the shore, and placed his own decoys in the same spot?

    It is public land and he would not know if you were coming out that day or if you had left the marsh to do something else.

    Would you gather up your decoys and set up somewhere else, or would you threaten him with violence if he refused to leave "your spot"?
     
  2. akquackerwhacker

    akquackerwhacker New Member

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    First off. My ribbing about Texas is puely good natured. I have been there many times and always enjoyed it. Texas woman are second only to Alaskan women (IMHO)
    Second, I said nothing about putting decoys out all season, unless of course I planned to hunt the same spot, every day, all season.
    The very notion of something being a right is not even considered until somebody tries to take it away. A "privilege" is something one is granted by law or decree, a right is something that is just there, implied by a lack of an apposing law or decree. Therefore, putting out decoys the night before is a right, as would be putting out decoys the week or month before. There is no law that denies this right.
    Honor or better put, courtesy, should be factor considered when deciding when to put out decoys.
    I leave my boat in the "public marsh" all night also, should there be a law against that? I am sure it is somebody's way at some point, though I try not to be :)
    I make the commitment even in the midst of all my other commitments to get out to duck camp early enough to set up my spread the day before I hunt. If I go in to camp for lunch, or whatever, I leave them out, especially if I plan to hunt that spot again.
    "public" implies that I have a right to do this. I am not limiting other peoples fair share, I am simply getting there first. Public lands are no more mine, than yours but, they are a limited resource, and limited resources are allocated universally by "first come first serve"

    Sometimes I go way out hunting. Places that most people cannot go because they do not have the same resources, Should I not go there because not everybody can? There are people who go out even further because they have more resources than I, should I wish to take that from them by "suggesting a law against it? NO that is socialist.
    What would you do if you arrived at your "spot" at the same time as another hunter or party? would you give it up and move to another spot to be courtious or honorable? What if you arrived at about the same time but you knew in your own heart that they were there first?

    What is the difference. I am not asking for a tirade about responsibilities and commitments. We all have them, and they are all at least equal. If you arrived before me, and put out your decoys, I would not begrudge you for your diligence. I would simply find another spot, and probably shoot (or miss) just as many birds, and have a happy day, instead of brooding.

    I managed to have a great opening, even though somebody was hunting just about on top of me, (even though my dekes were out the night before) I didn't get as many birds as I usually do, but I had a great time. I could have been ****ed about a lot of things but instead, I got jazzed on being in the marsh with my buddies, and my Benelli...
     
  3. akquackerwhacker

    akquackerwhacker New Member

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    I would move on and hunt someplace else. Violence will never teach anyone honor, especially not the person in question.

    However, that said I would probably move way on and find another place entirely to hunt because, I do not wish to be in the woods with such ignorant people.

    And they would get there due in the end.

    AKDuckman, on the other hand, would probably pull out his .45 put a few rounds in the guys head, then hunt over his dekes and his dead body. And I would join him ;)

    Twice the spread, for half the effort...

    Oh, and for you reactionaries out there, this is a facetious post so please don't threaten us with anymore laws because of it...
     
  4. benellisbe2

    benellisbe2 Senior Refuge Member

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    :grvn Ok you have gone and p**sed me off now how can you say texas women are second to any one especially alaska women. we dont have tundra wokies out prowling for new victims.( just joking im not ****ed but we do have better looking women)
     
  5. deekoy

    deekoy New Member

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    Did anyone else wonder why the ramp up the bank by the first shack was blocked by a large boat all weekend? Did anyone else plan on pulling their boat into the pond and have to change plans because the big guy decided to control use of the ramp? Thoughts/comments?
     
  6. benellisbe2

    benellisbe2 Senior Refuge Member

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    i did see that almost everytime i went by there he was standing up on top of the hill staring at us
     
  7. ogrejager

    ogrejager Senior Refuge Member

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    Aren't texas women as big as their state? :confused:
     
  8. AK DUCKMAN

    AK DUCKMAN Senior Refuge Member

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    Texans have been invading Alaska since the pipline days hence the saying Happiness is a oki heading south with a texan under each arm. Had to say it. But your women can stay:dv No but thanks for the thought I woulden't put no 45s in anyone for taking my spot unless of corse they were stealing my deeks. Then we have a problem.For someone to move my deeks out of the way and hunt my spot would take more balls then most men have. So I don't ever see that happening. shooting and running or stealing yes,That takes les balls. Heres a ? for you .You come across a really nice blind .No deeks ,and you decide to hunt out of it . If the guy or guys that built it show up do you move or stay. I would like to know what kind of people I'm talkin to here. I know you have only been here for 4 years tex so let's say in 25 more we will see how you feel then. And if your still here. untill then let's put you on probation for say 6 more years. That would give you 10 and a little say. You can't really love Texas as much as you say if your here. I know how I feel about Alaska. I coulden't live any where else for very long. Alaska is the kind of place that if it's not in your heart you shoulden't be here bottom line. So many people live here for the wrong reason. It's not about how many of this or how many of that you can kill. So hay if you come across my deeks your welcome to hunt over them. But the odds are if it's in the AM I will be there before you and if it's after noon I have my limit and taking a nap. Be back in the AM . As for the boat on the ramp all I was told is that since the ramp got washed out the last time it wasen't fixed enough to get the wheels under it .I guess they diden't have time. Maybe if some good ol boys would like to go down and move some silt around. maybe next time it will be open. I for one don't need it and am done working on it . but there should be a shovel and wheelbarrow down there pitch in I'm sure the big guy won't mind
     
  9. bigreid

    bigreid Moderator Moderator

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    AK Duckman,
    Do you leave your decoys on the water all season?
     
  10. AK DUCKMAN

    AK DUCKMAN Senior Refuge Member

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    No not all season. Only when I'm in camp will they be on the water. Sometimes I'll come back for a evening hunt and will move then to a different spot. I have come across deeks in the uper east arm that look like they weren't picked up from the year before. Weeds all around them and a few upside down. what ever floats your boat. I would think leaving deeks out all season would do more harm then good. Ducks aren't dumb after awhile they'll figure it out.Bottom line if I came across someone hunting over my deeks I would just tell them to move the hell over. As long as we're not talking 3 or 4 people.
     

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