But isn't that part of the problem today, that we dismiss things out of hand, before we heard what was said? And it didn't support my position, because I've never stated one. I shared that so the people wishing to hear well presented views of experts could avail themselves of the opportunity. No one is all right or all wrong. Didn't side much with Barney Franks politics, but he is a really, really smart guy and usually enjoyed hearing his side. I'm also not afraid to admit that there were times he was very convincing. Biden didn't get where he is without some political savvy, and his comments were on the political aspects and I thought them reasonable and well considered. But, you'd have to listen to hear that, to form that opinion.