What is the difference?

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  1. Timber Hole

    Timber Hole Senior Refuge Member

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    I don't have enough experience to add anything valuable to the discussion but as a new trainer one of the concepts that seemed logical to me was to teach prior to forcing. As a new trainer I always approached pressure with a high degree of caution and in one case had to back away from the pressure and rethink my approach. I still Dont have a full understanding of the proper use of pressure, especially as it applies to the the more advanced work but I'm still trying to learn.
     
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  2. bullpinnie

    bullpinnie Elite Refuge Member

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    I am pretty much the same way when it comes to force. My male came from a trainer that has several dogs with Grand titles. He was basically one of his personal dogs that washed out by about 10 months. The trainer used a lot of force, and the dog is extremely soft. He literally cowered around for a year, and would flinch whenever he was given a basic command. If i ever raised my voice to him he would just shut down completely. It is because of that that i lean way on the softer side. he's come a long way, and is doing things that a pro trainer could never get him to do. Granted, he probably won't ever win a Grand, but he's good in the blind, and has picked up at least 1,000 ducks. We got into the hunt test thing about a year ago. its been fun, and I have learned a lot, but I've got a long way to go.
     
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  3. KwickLabs

    KwickLabs Elite Refuge Member

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    Good for you! Lucky for him (ending up with you). :tu
     
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    bullpinnie Elite Refuge Member

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    Oh, most definitely. He's a great dog, and an even better companion. Until recently, I never had the time to train, and participate in hunt tests ( although, I've trained 5 "hunting retrievers" in the last 25 years). He went 4/4 to get his seasoned title. He's close to being able to run finished, but my (80 year old) mother had a lengthy stay in the hospital this summer that prevented me from getting him ready for the fall hunt tests. he is solid on blind retrieves & handling, but less so running triples. We'll get there.
     
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