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Discussion in 'Louisiana Flyway Forum' started by borntohunt, Dec 8, 2017.

  1. borntohunt

    borntohunt Senior Refuge Member

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    I read 2 studies on migration that were released about the same time a couple of years ago. Mr. Larry has probably also read the studies and can give chapter and verse. According to the studies ducks migrate between October 15th and November 15th. In other words if they are going to fly south for the winter they do so during this time period. They fly to their imprinted wintering ground for the winter. Once there, they may make temporary visits further south due to weather but will always return to their original wintering ground when weather permits. Now the availability of food may also require a move but after Nov 15th they will not make a new migration for food. By the end of October in the old days things would be pretty well frozen up in Canada and the US northern border states resulting in a migration between Oct 15 and November 15 further south. Now, with abundent food and habitat ducks go only far enough south to survive. All of the so called “rest stops” have become permanent wintering grounds instead of temporary stopping points. Good luck with the air cannons but until they run the ducks off or fill in the northern reservoirs with dirt, a “good year” of duck hunting in Louisiana is a thing of the past.
     
  2. Manoduk

    Manoduk Senior Refuge Member

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    That pretty well sums it up! The point that many of us have been trying to make. Thanks
     
  3. Steel3's

    Steel3's Elite Refuge Member

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    Please post the citations so everyone can read those particular papers.

    Illinois Natural History Survey flew an aerial survey on Thursday showing this cold front left plenty of ducks there ...... still 6.5% above December average, but counts were lower than last week. Check out the short report and nice photos at: http://wwx.inhs.illinois.edu/files/3015/1276/4358/December_8_2017_Week_12_Blog.pdf

    Our WMA survey from earlier this week showed a bunch of ducks, including the most seen at Rockefeller in 15 years. Everyone is expecting a big number from our coastal transect survey next week. We'll see.
     
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    ducaholic Elite Refuge Member

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    You figure all these new ducks on Rockefeller migrated in from the great north or were part of a coastal redistribution due to hunting pressure?
     
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    bxcall1 Senior Refuge Member

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    I'm thinking the same thing applies to California. Worst two seasons in memory.
     
  6. Steel3's

    Steel3's Elite Refuge Member

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    Redistribution due to hunting pressure occurred during those other 15 December surveys before this one as well.
     
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    ducaholic Elite Refuge Member

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    So a combination of the two without knowing for sure exactly how many recently migrated.
     
  8. Timberrunner205

    Timberrunner205 New Member

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    The state's north of us have just recently figured out what we've known for years here in Louisiana. Duck hunting is money. I guarantee if you look at the number of fields leased to hunt in Missouri 10 years ago and today the number would be greatly higher now. I also think if we didn't have bad luck with it being so dry north la would be holding a large amount of birds due to Arkansas being so dry.
     
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    ducaholic Elite Refuge Member

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    If N La is wet Arkansas will also be wet and vice versa. The same weather pattern that impacts one impacts the other.
     
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    Timberrunner205 New Member

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    For the most part yes but I've seen northeast la catch a good 3-4 inch rain and mid Arkansas north not get an inch.
     

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