What you gun for varmint hunting

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  1. howard s.

    howard s. Elite Refuge Member

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    I like the 2 I have....old school Remington ADL 22/250 with a Simmons ATV scope and a Steven 200 in 223 with Bushnell 3 x 9 scope.
    I like to reload Dogtown 55 SP and HP in both.
    Powder is 4320 or Reload 15.
     
  2. calling4life

    calling4life Elite Refuge Member

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    Tikka sporter 223 8 twist, Bushnell xrs 4.5-30x50.

    Rossi circuit judge in 44mag, millet 1-6x24 on top.

    One for close, one for far. That 1-6 is a true one power, it's unreal to see, you keep both eyes open, target acquisition is perfect. I like it more than the skinner peep sights I had on my 45-70.

    I'm still really getting these perfected though, I have some 80gr amax and smk's to try in the 223.

    Thinking of putting a brake on the 44, but it's shooting as well as I could have ever hoped for, don't know if I should tempt fate.
     
  3. howard s.

    howard s. Elite Refuge Member

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    WOW,,,,,4.5x30x50 is a lot of glass for the little 223.
    Do you ever use the upper end of power on your scope?
    Most of mine are set on 4x or 6x and left there.:sp
     
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    Oh these little 223's with the heavy 80-90gr rounds have embarrassed plenty a bigger round, I'll get back into fclass with it someday.

    My gun before this was a custom 260, adjustable McMillan a5, rock creek 8 twist meant for the 142's, it wore an 8-32x56. And before it was customized it was a 308 with that scope on it.

    The higher power is for targets and for better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it.

    Shooting fclass I was confident out a ways, figure a 6" kill zone on a coyote, aim small miss small, that's a sub moa target at 600 & over.

    However, my last several were killed sub 30 yds with those guns, most being on the move, 8 power worked, but I have to give credit to my years of waterfowling as to why.

    I'm a caller, goal is to never have to use that much power on an animal, but yes, I have come into situations where it was great to have.

    The 223 has yet to taste blood and that 4.5-30x50 scope is also front focal plane.

    I've also got range finding binoculars that'll hit a tree at a mile, but I ain't sending lead at a coyote out there.

    Heavy though, these target rigs are all 13-16lbs, now the 44 will add another 8 or so, should be fun for those sub 100yd dogs though.
     
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    Oh and if you re-barrel your 22-250 with a 7 twist and shoot the 90 grain Berger at 3100 or so fps, you'll hate barrel life, but probably never want to shoot another gun, it has incredible ballistics and no recoil.

    Someday I'll turn this 223 into just that, it's as true a 1,000yd coyote combo as anything out there.
     
  6. Mark Brendemuehl

    Mark Brendemuehl Senior Refuge Member Sponsor

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    It all depends on where I am I guess. I have a pair of Tikka T3 heavies, one in .308 with a VXIII on top and a .223 with a VXII on top. My favorite, is a Bushmaster Varminter with a Nikon M223 on top. I would prefer more glass just because I shoot prairie dogs as well, and will be replacing it soon.

    Calling- you seriously are saying a .223 is as good as anything else at 1000 yards? Seriously? Not happening. Its simple math. I am a .223 fan, but it has limitations, and that's just how it is.
    Mark
     
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    No I'm talking about a 7 twist 22-250 pushing the 551bc 90gr bergers at 3150 or so.

    That's what I'd like to turn my 223 into someday.

    Probably only get 600 rounds out of a barrel though.

    Proper 223 with the 80's and 90's is no slouch, but wind kills it.

    Run those 22-250 numbers through a ballistic calculator, it's quite impressive, even with some wind
     
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    22-250 shooting 90 Berger 551 @ 3150fps
    23.5moa drop @ 1,000
    12.8moa adjustment for 20mph full value
    524.8 ft/lbs energy
    67.1moa lead on a 30mph running yote

    243 105gr Berger 547bc at 2900
    28.7moa drop @ 1,000
    14.7moa adjustment for 20mph full value
    492 ft/lbs
    74.1moa on a 30mph dog

    260 140gr Berger 618bc @ 2900
    26.6moa drop @ 1,000
    12.5moa adjustment for 20mph full value
    780 ft/lbs
    70.8moa on a 30mph dog

    You can play with velocity or what not if you wish, but that is why I say the 22-250 can play
     
  9. EasternShoreGuy

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    I use either a .243 Model 70, or a AR-15, with national match SS white oak barrel. I have big glass on both, 4-16X, but I find I rarely go over 10X. The .243 is nice but the .223 does just about anything it can do along with quick follow up shots.
     
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    Calling coyotes along with duck hunting are my passions. I hunt 4 or 5 states for coyotes every year and a bunch of different terrain.

    Most of the time in mixed cover and I can use lead I shoot an old German drilling 16ga x 16ga/6.5x58 Rimmed Sauer w/Leupold 1-4x2mm, it is a sub MOA gun and 1 oz of NP BB's work well on close in coyotes.

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    In the same terrain in Lead Free areas I use a little Italian combo gun 12ga/5.6x50R Mag w/Leupold, ITX BB's and NBT Lead-Free.

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    Open country bolt actions, doing control, a 22-250 w/Elite 4200 2.5-10x40mm and 52gr Speer HP's, pelt hunting a 22-204 w/Sightron 1.5-6x40mm and 40gr NBTs, for lead free areas a 6mm-204 w/Burris 1.5-6x40mm and 55gr NBT Lead-Frees.
     
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