What's going to happen when these eleven million decide they are not going back?

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  1. ALMODUX

    ALMODUX Elite Refuge Member

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    Wah, wah, wah, spin, spin....throw out a logical fallacy and some orange painted apples. Whatever.

    They're NOT immigrants. They ARE illegal aliens. Therefore, they DID 'invade', infiltrate, sneak, whatever. You can apologize for criminals all you want. Doesn't make it legal immigration, good for the nation, or even defensible....but you have at it.
     
  2. Bear

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    Illegal aliens deliberately kill more people every year here than terrorists ever dreamed of. Never mind the drunk driving carnage. The rapes...drug trafficking...assaults...robberies...pedaphilia...etc...etc...etc.

    Never mind the costs to the civil infrastructure.

    Either increased costs or depletion of resources because they use the same taxpayer and for profit entities U.S. Citizens use.

    Education...ER and hospitilization...fire and police...health and safety...etc...etc...etc.
     
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  3. The Other David

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    I am all for finding a resolution for illegal immigration, but when folks start calling them targets, then they lose all support. They are here, and there is no realistic way we are going to get rid of them all. First, stop the flow of illegal immigrants coming in undetected. Perhaps a combination of physically restricting access, and implementing a way for temporary worker status. Then at the same time either deporting the bad actors or put them in prison. The problems with that is deportees come back, and prison is expensive.
     
  4. ALMODUX

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    When people start referring to them as immigrants and comparing them to past settlers, etc who created the nation (as opposed to undermining it), and want to categorize criminals into good/bad, and can't discern a sovereign mandate to protect against all of it to begin with, then it's just aiding the problem. The border patrol and rangers were KNOWN to have shot anyone found crossing at night. They interacted with daylight crossers.
    Illegals weren't an issue then.
     
  5. The Other David

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    And if we hanged everyone who committed a misdemeanor we would have fewer felons.
     
  6. Ron Gilmore

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    Oh get off the liberal treadmill. Securing the border might offend you in the manner that it needs.
     
  7. The Other David

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    There are perhaps 11 MILLION illegal immigrants in the country. There is no way that all can be rounded up and removed. That is no more likely to happen than the government rounding up the 300,000,000 guns in the country.
     
  8. Ron Gilmore

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    Ok but stopping and reporting those who are caught and tax every some sent put of the US
     
  9. Bear

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    I have no problem with the nose clean illegal aliens that are here now. However...if they want to stay they need to come clean and each pay a $20,000 fine and a $300.00 per month fee to stay here and work. Including their spouses and children. $10,000 and $100.00 for each of their children under twelve. No birthright anchor baby children.

    They can apply for citizenship in 15 years and when granted the monthly "charge" will be stopped.

    They have to keep their noses clean and anything above a Class C misdemenor subjects their status to be reviewed. If deportation is determined any return and subsequent capture is an immediate five years in an immigration center specifically set up for ILLEGAL aliens.

    No chain migration or benefits other than medical and educational for their minor children.

    All finger printed and the amnesty period to come clean lasts however long the Feds determine it will take for all to be registered. After that any new illegal aliens caught are put in an immigration center for two years then deported. With the return of those subject to a seven year term if caught again.

    Any employer that is convicted of serial hiring of illegals not authorized or using contractors not authorized will be fined $10,000 for each employee and the third conviction is a felony with five years in prison.

    Or just flog them...whichever works best.
     
  10. API

    API Political Action Forum Moderator Flyway Manager

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    But, but, but all that would require laws and folks with any memory at all have enough experience to know how that works out.
     

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