With tax bill and loss of Moore, are the REP figuing out that it is them not Trump?

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  1. The_Duck_Master

    The_Duck_Master Elite Refuge Member

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    I have a friend who gave up his accounting job to investigate fraud cases, but that seems like an unrealistic and unnecessary expectation for an agent. What do you base that statement on?
     
  2. Ron Gilmore

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    Friend now retired was a US Marshall. Never said much while in service, but has plenty to say since. None of it good. Videos of people being killed, raped etc swept away chasing a bigger fish or turning some poor slob into a criminal via entrapment, then trying to use them as bait.

    Lots of good people in the ranks, but higher up to politically motivated.

    Think we may have reached a point where the corruption is about to be exposed. Won't fix it, but that is not the intent.
     
  3. API

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    The comment was a point made within the magazine article. Should have made that more clear.
     
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    For the record, I was able to retrieve the American Rifleman article previously referenced. The excerpt which I previously attempted to recall follows...

    By the 1930s, J. Edgar Hoover had just about cleaned out his adopted agency of bums, political appointees and some downright crooks. He had begun a policy of requiring his FBI agents to be of good character and have college degrees in either accounting or the law. But he began to run into trouble when he found out that these college graduates were poorly equipped to deal with the likes of John Dillinger, Pretty Boy Floyd and Baby Face Nelson.

    In fact, things were getting downright embarrassing. Poorly planned raids were letting the crooks get away and the honest citizens get shot up. The gangsters were making the FBI look like fools.

    Suddenly, and quietly, the college requirement was being dropped in the case of many applicants. In short, Hoover began to recruit a team of shooters to his department. He enlisted a Texas deputy sheriff named Charles Winstead (who would later kill John Dillinger), Texas Rangers Gus Jones and Doc White, and OKC police detectives Clarence Hurt and Jerry Campbell. And, in November of 1934, he signed up Jelly Bryce.

    Agent Def A. (Jelly) Bryce was the focus of the magazine article.

    https://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2017/10/30/profile-jelly-bryce-oklahoma-gunfighter/
     
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    Good Lord, really? 1930's?

    Isn't there a requirement on the PAF that when referencing employment requirements from 80 years ago that it needs an expiration date warning? :dv
     
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    Ya thinking the FBI culture has actually changed since the 1930s? :l
     
  7. API

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    While the noted quote is a bit out of original context, the word "pragmatist" describing Trump has merit. For example, one of syndicated columnist and nationally-recognized political pundit Mychal Massie's past rants recently came to my attention. While with the benefit of 20/20 hind sight we might argue the details from observations made a couple of years ago, the last paragraph really says the most.

    Trump Is Not Conservative, He's A Pragmatist
    We recently enjoyed a belated holiday dinner with friends at the home of other friends. The dinner conversation was jocund, ranging from discussions about antique glass and china to theology and politics. At one point reference was made to Donald Trump being a conservative to which I responded that Trump is not a conservative.

    I said that I neither view nor do I believe Trump views himself as a conservative. I stated it was my opinion that Trump is a pragmatist. He sees a problem and understands it must be fixed. He doesn’t see the problem as liberal or conservative, he sees it only as a problem. That is a quality that should be admired and applauded, not condemned. But I get ahead of myself.

    Viewing problems from a liberal perspective has resulted in the creation of more problems, more entitlement programs, more victims, more government, more political correctness, and more attacks on the working class in all economic strata.

    Viewing things according to the so-called Republican conservative perspective has brought continued spending, globalism to the detriment of American interests and well being, denial of what the real problems are, weak, ineffective, milquetoast, leadership that amounts to Barney Fife Deputy Sheriff – appeasement oriented and afraid of its own shadow. In brief, it has brought liberal ideology with a pachyderm as a mascot juxtaposed to the *** of the Democrat Party.

    Immigration isn’t a Republican problem – it isn’t a liberal problem – it is a problem that threatens the very fabric and infrastructure of America. It demands a pragmatic approach not an approach that is intended to appease one group or another.

    The impending collapse of the economy isn’t a liberal or conservative problem it is an American problem. That said, until it is viewed as a problem that demands a common sense approach to resolution, it will never be fixed because the Democrats and Republicans know only one way to fix things and the longevity of their impracticality has proven to have no lasting effect. Successful businessmen like Donald Trump find ways to make things work, they do not promise to accommodate.

    Trump uniquely understands that China’s manipulation of currency is not a Republican problem or a Democrat problem. It is a problem that threatens our financial stability and he understands the proper balance needed to fix it. Here again successful businessmen like Trump who have weathered the changing tides of economic reality understand what is necessary to make business work and they, unlike both sides of the political aisle, know that if something doesn’t work you don’t continue trying to make it work hoping that at some point it will.

    As a pragmatist Donald Trump hasn’t made wild pie-in-the-sky promises of a cell phone in every pocket, free college tuition, and a $15 hour minimum wage for working the drive-through a Carl’s Hamburgers.

    I argue that America needs pragmatists because pragmatists see a problem and find ways to fix them. They do not see a problem and compound it by creating more problems.

    You may not like Donald Trump but I suspect that the reason people do not like him is because: 1) he is antithetical to the “good old boy” method of brokering backroom deals that fatten the coffers of politicians; 2) they are unaccustomed to hearing a candidate speak who is unencumbered by the financial shackles of those who own them vis-a`-vis donations; 3) he is someone who is free of idiomatic political ideology; and 4) he is someone who understands that it takes more than hollow promises and political correctness to make America great again.

    Listening to Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders talk about fixing America is like listening to two lunatics trying to “out crazy” one another. Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio are owned lock, stock, and barrel by the bankers, corporations, and big dollar donors funding their campaigns. Bush can deny it but common sense tells anyone willing to face facts that people don’t give tens of millions without expecting something in return.

    We have had Democrats and Republican ideologues and what has it brought us? Are we better off today or worst off? Has it happened overnight or has it been a steady decline brought on by both parties?

    I submit that a pragmatist might be just what America needs right now. And as I said earlier, a pragmatist sees a problem and understands that the solution to fix same is not about a party, but a willingness and boldness to get it done.

    People are quick to confuse and despise confidence as arrogance but that is common amongst those who have never accomplished anything in their lives and who have always played it safe not willing to risk failure.

    BTW, some social media attributes Massie's commentary to Charles Krauthammer, however, the writ is indeed from Mychal Massie.
     
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    Given the earning capacity of someone with a law or even accounting degree, the FBI pay scale even at top step is a poor runner up. It's no wonder they couldn't find candidates.
     

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