Youth semi auto 12 gauge?

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  1. Dave in AZ

    Dave in AZ Senior Refuge Member

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    Boy, EVERYBODY loves that Beretta 300, maybe another too like 390? I've never held or seen one myself, but sure wish I could-- it's a gun that always comes up in these sorts of threads, and I've only ever read good comments. Along with what JP said, Wby stopped import of their SA-08 28ga too... so yeah, I could see the support for an imported gun they didn't make themselves having parts issues in the future.
     
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    IMG_2740.JPG IMG_2986.JPG IMG_3326.JPG IMG_3572.JPG UHe's been using a single shot with some efficiency but, he thinks it's time to upgrade.
     
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  3. Dave in AZ

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    Wow, great pics, and congrats to him!

    Basically for a 12ga, you're going to have to buy a full size and then cut the stock to fit him.
    1. You'll want a lighter 12ga for him, something 6-7 lbs.
    2. You want one with aftermarket stocks, so you can buy a 2nd full size for later

    Looking at what might be the limiting factor, after market stocks available for 12ga SA guns, a google search of the usual suspects (Brownells, Midway, Amazon, Midwest), I find stocks for Auto-5, Rem 1100/1187, Win 1400. Of course the pump guns Rem870 and Mossberg 500 have a zillion options.

    Sometimes you can buy an extra stock from the gunmaker, but not always-- low cost imported guns from Turkey often come complete, and the importer (Stevens, Tristar, ATI, Escort/Howa) doesn't have access to extra stocks. Other times they do-- I was able to find extra stocks at Weatherby and Browning and Tristar recently.

    Anyways, the field is wide open... any 12ga SA really. I'd be looking at:
    Escort
    Weatherby SA08
    since I know those two are light.

    Wait... I had a folder with about 30 links in it, "Youth Shotguns" from when I was looking for my two sons. I just checked, and Tristar Viper G2 comes in 12ga Compact, listed on their Youth Models page:
    http://www.tristararms.com/products/semi-automatic-shotguns/viper-g2-series/viper-g2-youth/

    This is a very decent gun, with a lot of good reports. I have seen the youth SCTP kids (scholastic clays program) shoot these as club guns with a zillion rounds through them without issue, in the 20ga model.
    This thing would be perfect. 6.5 pounds, 24" barrel (and the heavy barrel is what keeps kids from shooting a 12ga, that weight cantilevered way out there!).
    Check that thing out, I think it's perfect. I'd buy one, if i wanted a 12ga for my kids.
     
  4. Tuleman

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    Here's the problem: if a small/young shooter is given a 12 that is light enough to be used by him/her, the recoil (with commercial waterfowl loads) is probably going to be excessive for his/her young frame.
    The fact that a person might be too small for a large bore shotgun just can't be ignored. In many cases, a smaller 20 gage autoloader, shooting lighter (7/8oz?) loads may be the best thing for a small person....at least until that person puts some inches/pounds on their frame. (And it generally doesn't take many years before that happens.) Be patient.
     
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    He shot 3" 20 gauge for the past few years out of a very light single shot, so I'm thinking he's ready for some good 2.75" 12's.
     
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    Then he'll probably welcome an A300 with a LimbSaver pad screwed to the buttstock.
     
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    Take that A5 you got have the stock cut and give it to your kid
     
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    Years ago I bought my wife a Mossberg 12ga 9200 gas operated youth model semi auto. The recoil was very harsh and the action bar broke. Mossberg fixed it but we traded it for a 20ga full size montifeltro.
     
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    Try Looking at a CZ 712 that has an adjustable stock.

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