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Discussion in 'Shooting - Reloading Forum' started by Sunklands, Mar 1, 2018.
Regardless of gauge, a well fitted shotgun will exponentially enhance his field experiences and make what appears (pics) a pretty darn good shot a cracker jack wing shot. When mine started out I found a shotgun he could balance, point and swing well then had the stock modified to where his thumb knuckle was 1.5" ahead of his cheek. A wood stock will also be softer (felt recoil) and quieter than synthetics.
I know you were asking about a 12ga but your son looks like a he's still a little guy, and a smaller gun would fit him better. Consider a tristar viper G2 youth model with the extra stock for when he gets bigger. I bought my son one when he was around 10 and it's been a solid gun, he shot the snot out of it for 3 or 4 years and still shoots it during the summer at the skeet range.
I've think I'm settling back towards a 20 gauge. Looked at the Escorts, Tristar's, Yildiz, Weatherby's, and Remington's. Don't know at this point.
I would not consider a Turkish shotgun unless that's all your budget will allow. A cheap gun is a cheap gun.
My dad bought me a new cheap shotgun when I was a young man. (it was a JC Higgins and probably cost $49.95) I struggled with that gun for years before selling it for $20. I had a Tristar for several weeks not long ago, was very happy to sell it for half of its MSRP. I have learned my lesson.
I have a Weatherby SA 08 20 guage and 2 A300's.
If money is tight I would not hesitate to recommend the SA 08. They do not look or feel "cheap" in any way.
I also really like my A 300's in 12 gauge.
I think both of these shotgun models represent very good value for the money.
10gagenut told me the exact same thing. I trust you guys and I'm going to take a closer look at the Weatherby's and possibly a used 1100 youth.
Hehe... he's talking about the Wby probably, it's a Turkish import.
But listen, Sunklands, that Wby SA-08 is a great gun. I've got it in 12ga, 20ga compact, and 28ga, ALL of which I bought after already owning Browning 725, Beretta 682, Browning Cynergy, Browning Maxus. And I love them, I took my 20ga compact (with a limbsaver pad to fit me) several times when a 4 hour drive and mile walk through the mud mandated a reliable gun. I think I like the Sa08 20ga better than my SX3 20ga compact, which is basically the exact same as Browning Gold and Silver which anyone agrees is a good quality gun.
But really, you just can't characterize an entire country worth of Turkish guns, a huge producer of shotguns, maybe #2, as all cheap and worthless, it's like saying "all US guns are crap!" or "all Japanese cars are terrible" or "everything from China is bad"... all patently false statements on the surface. The Weatherby SA08 has hundreds and hundreds of positive reviews and posts on all the forums, virtually everyone who I've read posting about it thinks it's a decent gun. So don't be put off because some folks have had a bad experience with a Turkish built gun before. My SA08 28ga is probably the best looking gun in my safe, certainly more flashy looking than my 725 as far as wood and bluing, and the fit/finish is very good.
Also the Tristar Viper G2... i might have mentioned it before. They have a couple at the SCTP group I work with, that have held up well and everyone there seems to like... kids all seem to rather use them than the Rem 1100, both 20ga are provided by the club. Lots of articles about a huge increase in quality from Tristar over the last 10 years also.
Well, keep us advised what you decide, it's fun to follow along. I took my 15yo out to the garage today, he weighs 95 lbs so still pretty small, and had him test-fit various guns again to see what he liked the feel of best. He liked SX3 20ga compact, then Wby SA08 compact, then Wby SA08 28ga, then Wby SA08 12ga. 8 other guns not up there. He gets a 15 or so at skeet with the SX3.
I appreciate all the info, especially the guns which your boy prefers, as far as fit and feel are concerned. I didn't know the Weatherby's were made in Turkey, and may not mind buying a Turkish gun but, it better very good quality and parts ought to be readily available. The quality of my boys and any guest of mine's hunt is at the foremost of my concernes. The boy has only seen pics of all the guns mentioned and very few places have these guns readily on the shelf, for comparison. His favorite as far as looks go, is the little Browning silver with walnut. I told him that, " that's a little out of our $league$". He responded by saying that, "its a lot cheaper than the Kenworth and grain trailer, you just bought".
Well, he's right.
What he probably doesn't realize is that you didn't buy that rig with your own money; you used the bank's money. It makes a difference when you're using someone else's money, he may need that explained to him.