16 gauge dilemma

Discussion in 'Shooting - Reloading Forum' started by Hawkeyebowhunter, May 28, 2019.

  1. Farm4wildlife

    Farm4wildlife Elite Refuge Member

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    I would try to find someone has an old A-5. Plenty were made. Hopefully you can find someone. I have kinda started collecting them. I have 5 at this point. They aren't for everyone. Some of my buddies like them, some can't shoot them or stand them. I would try to track one down to try. Of course if you find a good deal on one you should be able to turn it over pretty quick, if it's a light twenty or sweet sixteen.

    If you find yourself in VA let me know. I'll let you try a few.
     
  2. Winchester 1897

    Winchester 1897 Elite Refuge Member

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    I shoot 4s for the most part, 2s if the geese decide to play.
     
  3. Hawkeyebowhunter

    Hawkeyebowhunter Senior Refuge Member

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    I was thinking the new A5 Sweet Sixteen just feels cheap to me. No engraving + aluminum receiver and finish looks like plastic. I just don't see how it's worth $1400, the only good thing about it is that it can shoot steel + has chokes.
     
  4. Mrs.10GAGENUT

    Mrs.10GAGENUT Elite Refuge Member Sponsor

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    So far I have a few loads worked up, enough pellet count there I can try 1 3/4 oz loads to get a bit more speed from them and still have enough downrange. 1 7/8 oz is what I'm working with right now but gonna try a few other payload weights.
     
  5. Sunklands

    Sunklands Elite Refuge Member

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    With the density increase, with biz, are you using STEEL or Blue Dot? With increased pressures are using Winchester primers? Assuming 209A’s may be a tad hot.
     
  6. Mrs.10GAGENUT

    Mrs.10GAGENUT Elite Refuge Member Sponsor

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    Some of both with lighter loads I'm using Blue Dot and heavier loads I'm going to try STEEL and see how that does.
     
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  7. Hawkeyebowhunter

    Hawkeyebowhunter Senior Refuge Member

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    So I should be looking for a Japanese A5 16.

    I may take it after teal- with that gun could I duplex steel with some Spherotungsten?
     
  8. JP

    JP Elite Refuge Member

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    If a 1 1/8 ounce load of #7 TSS will face plant a 22# Rio at 37 yards with the SS & factory MOD tube and DRT mallards and redhead to 70+ yards you’re good to go for most anything that has feathers and a heartbeat.
     
  9. Hawkeyebowhunter

    Hawkeyebowhunter Senior Refuge Member

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    I'm definitely a believer in heavier than lead non tox, just trying to find a lesser expensive route for my 16, hoping to duplex say 1/4 TSS or HW15 with 3/4 steel so I dont have to use fillers and cards, while still having a deadly load if that makes sense?
     
  10. Sunklands

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    I’m gonna say, that just plain old biz from a 16 gauge will do a number on ducks at 40 yards with a full choke. From what I’ve seen and read, biz likes a tighter choke. You either bust’em or you miss, that is if you’re trying to get all the range as possible. If you’re hunting in the woods, then a more open choke and #3 or #4 steel will kill’em just as dead. Though I shoot a 20, when it comes to sub gauges, I feel like a 2.75” 16, will out pattern a 3” 20.
     

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