After doing more pattern testing with steel .410 loads I still can't get decent patterns beyond 22 yards. I Found bismuth .410 ammo , 9/16oz in 4's and 6's. I am going to pattern the 6's The pellet count is 130+ compared to the 110 in the steel load and will hopefully have a bit better pattern. If it does well I will probably use it for the second and third shots. I don't take shots beyond 30 yards so I am hoping it improves the pattern enough to extend my range to 25-30 yards max.